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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 03:58 PM
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Patriot II's Deadly New Definition Of 'Terrorists'
http://www.rense.com/general46/deadd.html

October 6, 2003: (Dissident Voice) It's a strange feeling to wake up one average, middle-class North American morning and realize your beliefs could get you killed. Not in a random, drive-by, developing-world, terrorist-bombing kind of way. But in an officially sanctioned, totally legal, death by lethal injection way.

At least, if President Bush's call on Congress on the eve of the second anniversary of September 11 to extend the death penalty is anything to go by.

It began in June when Attorney-General John Ashcroft told lawmakers that the death penalty needed to be expanded to cover "material supporters" of terrorist organizations. On the surface it seems fair enough. If you give money to al Qaeda then you have to expect a harsh penalty.

But there's a catch. They've changed the definition of terrorist.
In fact the Patriot II Act redefines terrorism so vaguely and broadly it's not a great leap to envisage the definition including political activists or just about anyone who belongs to an organization that disagrees with the Administration.

Greenpeace for example. It stands for non-violent, creative confrontation to expose global environmental problems and their causes. While Greenpeace is adamant it does not endorse sabotage it's really only a matter of definition, especially since the organization has simulated sabotaging safety at nuclear facilities.


Tad old...but still very relevant. Very scary...is this America?
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fishguy Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 04:01 PM
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1. Mentioned something in an earlier post about the Catholic view of things
How can Catholics be for an expanded death penalty?
Easy ammunition to use against Bush for the Catholic voter.
As well as starting a war the Catholic Church calls immoral.
Use the tools that are given to you.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 04:16 PM
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2. I will not shut up, I will not shut up
I will not shut up. That was the mistake Germany made. We know from history what happens to those who are silenced by fear. They die anyway.

:grr:
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November 2004 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 05:19 PM
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7. Excellent.
You remind me of the Bourke quote about the worst is when good people do nothing; also Henry with give me liberty or give me death; and even the Rev Niemoller quote about 'first they came for...by the time they came for me, there was no one to speak up.' Decide whether to live on your knees or die standing up ... another one.

You're a good egg!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 04:24 PM
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3. Oh boy we are in love of the death penalty
aren't we John?

I wonder if he had a chance to kill many wiht no judicial review,
woudl he?

Of course in the name of the Lord...

And for hte Record his Christ is not one most Christians would
recognize either... hell it is worst than the avenging Lord
of the early Old testament as well... it is closer to the Devil.

But who is to quibble? They are in love wiht killing... that is
clear

Oh and if they manage to silence us, Reeeducation camps may come...

Why does this place reminds me more and more of Nazi Gernamy circa 1934?
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 04:30 PM
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4. Because it is ....or it will be
Sometimes i think our worst fears are coming true and so many don't even see it coming....
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 04:32 PM
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5. Unless we stand up NOW
First we have to get rid of the most dominating administration ever to be in America.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 04:44 PM
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6. It's Dimbo's America
Patriot Act III will call for the arrest and conviction of anybody who disagrees with him, Asskrap or the "Rape of the Nation."
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