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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 11:06 PM
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LIBERALS ON THE WARPATH: The Democrats Get Hawkish


http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,499672,00.html

August 14, 2007


LIBERALS ON THE WARPATH
The Democrats Get Hawkish

By Gabor Steingart in Washington, D.C.

The American people may want to get rid of Bush, but they in no way want to risk losing the war on terror. The consequences: America's Democrats are seeking to position themselves as being more hawkish than the Republicans and Congress has just approved the biggest military budget ever.


Opponents Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton: Voters want a candidate tough enough to fight a multifront war.
Newt Gingrich was more than satisfied. The archbishop of America's conservatives was purring like a cat when he appeared at a luncheon with foreign journalists. Better yet, a cat that had just devoured a couple of mice.

Gingrich's mice are Democrats who have recently begun challenging wartime President George W. Bush by trying to beat him at his own game. Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama had just raised the issue of terrorist cells in Pakistan and suggested the idea of a US military attack on the nuclear state. "If Musharraf won't act, we will," he told an audience at Washington's Wilson Center. With that kind of rhetoric, the Democrats' new shining hope might as well be called Barack Bush-Obama.

A man like Gingrich, who has conveniently replaced the now-defunct image of the Soviet communists as his public enemy No. 1 with that of the Islamic fanatic, should feel vindicated. In fact, he even praised -- patronizingly, of course -- the young senator, saying that what Obama had to say about Pakistan was spot on. Gingrich is pleased to see a political adversary calling for a new military campaign when everyone else these days is talking about withdrawal. Pakistan, said Gingrich, "is enormously dangerous ... we need to have a strategy for Pakistan." Of course, when someone like Gingrich talks strategy he really means the use of missiles, mortars and flamethrowers.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 11:18 PM
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1. this is one of the reasons I've totally lost faith in the democratic party....
Just to be fair, I've always LOATHED the republican party. But today's democratic party is not something I recognize any longer. The "war on terror" is an utter scam, yet the democrats do not want to risk losing it? WTF is that about? It's bullshit, smoke and mirrors to scare the fearful into accepting a locked down security state without that pesky Constitution AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS STUMBLING OVER ITSELF TO SUPPORT IT?!

Piss on that.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 11:20 PM
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2. mike_c, all I've read is 'piss on that, but
I missed you when you were gone, and don't go away... please. Let's chat, because I look for some people and you are one of them. And thanks.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 11:31 PM
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3. I wasn't gone, just having some face time with the real world for a bit...
...and having lots of fun doing it. DU is my extended community-- I'm not leaving until the admins march me out to my tombstone, LOL. In the meantime, I look for YOUR posts, religiously.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 11:53 PM
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4. A sad "get elected" stunt
After the Dems take over there will have to be a smarter use of money. America can not waste our good name and treasure the way the NeoCons did. Once elected there will be a drift from this "Obama Bomber" position as even if we increase military spending and there is a terror attack the (R)s will not see the failures of Bush in the past but that of the Dems no matter what.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:17 AM
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5. what stupid irresponsible rubbish
Next thing we'll be hearing how we may as well elect the Republican, since they're all the same anyway.

How fucking many times does the left want to go down this stupid fucking road.


:argh:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:29 AM
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6. until the TRUTH is heard by the idiots who refuse to see it...
BTW: we're no longer "the left" - we're the MAINSTREAM MAJORITY...

You forgot your "looney" in front of your repuke spew against us...
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peacelovechange Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 01:41 AM
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7. Liberal on a Peace Pursuit:: Dennis Kucinich Gets Hopeful
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 01:45 AM by peacelovechange
http://www2.kucinich.us/iraqplan

In 2002 Dennis Kucinich distributed a full analysis of what a war in Iraq would mean for the US, how there was no evidence to support the administration's advances, and much more. He circulated it widely to Members of Congress and led the effort in the House that resulted in 125 Democrats voting NO to the Iraq war resolution.Dennis Kucinich has crafted HR 1234, the plan that will end the occupation, close the bases, bring the troops home, make Halliburton and all contractors come home, and stabilize Iraq with an international peace-keeping and security force.


Dennis is the only Democratic candidate who voted against the war and funding it 100% of the time.

"It's time for America to resume its glorious journey; time to reject shrinking jobs and wages, disappearing savings and rights; time to reject the detour towards fear and greed. It's time to look out upon the world for friends, not enemies; time to counter the control of corporations over our politics, our economy, our resources, and mass media. It's time for those who have much to help those who have little, by maintaining a progressive tax structure. It's time to tell the world that we wish to be their partner in peace, not their leader in war. Most of all, it is time for America to again be the land where dreams come true, because the government is on the side of its people." - Dennis Kucinich


http://www2.kucinich.us/issues
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