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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 05:24 PM
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NYT: The War as We Saw It : 7 US Servicemen lay it all out for us
Edited on Sun Aug-19-07 05:24 PM by BadGimp
The War as We Saw It
By BUDDHIKA JAYAMAHA, WESLEY D. SMITH, JEREMY ROEBUCK, OMAR MORA, EDWARD SANDMEIER, YANCE T. GRAY and JEREMY A. MURPHY

Baghdad


VIEWED from Iraq at the tail end of a 15-month deployment, the political debate in Washington is indeed surreal. Counterinsurgency is, by definition, a competition between insurgents and counterinsurgents for the control and support of a population. To believe that Americans, with an occupying force that long ago outlived its reluctant welcome, can win over a recalcitrant local population and win this counterinsurgency is far-fetched. As responsible infantrymen and noncommissioned officers with the 82nd Airborne Division soon heading back home, we are skeptical of recent press coverage portraying the conflict as increasingly manageable and feel it has neglected the mounting civil, political and social unrest we see every day. (Obviously, these are our personal views and should not be seen as official within our chain of command.)

The claim that we are increasingly in control of the battlefields in Iraq is an assessment arrived at through a flawed, American-centered framework. Yes, we are militarily superior, but our successes are offset by failures elsewhere. What soldiers call the “battle space” remains the same, with changes only at the margins. It is crowded with actors who do not fit neatly into boxes: Sunni extremists, Al Qaeda terrorists, Shiite militiamen, criminals and armed tribes. This situation is made more complex by the questionable loyalties and Janus-faced role of the Iraqi police and Iraqi Army, which have been trained and armed at United States taxpayers’ expense.

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In the end, we need to recognize that our presence may have released Iraqis from the grip of a tyrant, but that it has also robbed them of their self-respect. They will soon realize that the best way to regain dignity is to call us what we are — an army of occupation — and force our withdrawal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/opinion/19jayamaha.html?ei=5090&en=5a8349a0e944e61b&ex=1345176000&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

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This is a must read. Send this to as many people as you can.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-19-07 06:21 PM
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1. So as with a record that skips....lets wait for the right wing spin
machine to attack these men who were in battle...by attacking their masculinity, attacking them and labeling them just boots on the ground and they don't get the big picture....going after their families if necessary......they will get hammered by the machine....

The fact is the Patreus report that the WH has been claiming will determine how the surge is going is not going to be written by Petraus it will be written in the WH delusional bubble..

A kick for these soldiars speaking the truth...
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 04:59 PM
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2. Discussed extensively on 'Softball' today
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-20-07 05:11 PM
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3. Thank you for posting this BadGimp
I have sent this to everyone on my mailing list and will print it out as well.

Heartbreaking, brutally honest.

End this oily bloodbath of lies now.

This really is a must read.

Thanks to these brave 7 for telling this. Hope they all stay safe.

Alyce
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