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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:07 AM
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Are We ‘Good Germans’? By Ed Ciaccio
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/
A shirt I recently bought from Old American Century (www.oldamericancentury.org) has the figure of Uncle Sam, steely-eyed, fists on hips, and under it, the following text:

“If you had told me a few years ago that we would have secret prisons through out the former Soviet republics, tortured our enemies, and used chemical weapons on civilians, I’d have thought you were crazy. But I also didn’t think you’d let Bush steal another election.”

Regardless of whether you choose to believe that both the 2000 and 2004 Presidential Elections were stolen (and there is ample evidence; see, for example:

One Million Black Votes Didn’t Count in The 2000 Presidential Election…, http://www.gregpalast.com/ and Was the 2004 Election Stolen?, http://www.rollingstone.com/, there are many other disturbing facts about our nation which no longer need to rest on faith to be “believed” because they are now part of the historical record.

Among them are the following:

Bush and his administration had many warnings before the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks (http://www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/911bush.html)

War on Iraq for “regime change” was planned long before the 9/11 attacks (http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1203-21.htm, http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html, and http://pnac.info/index.php/2003/4-years-before-911-plan-was-set/)

Intelligence about Iraq was “fixed” starting in 2002 to support Bush and Blair’s decision to attack Iraq (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/ and http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SMI505A.html)

The U.S./U.K. invasion and occupation of Iraq is illegal and constitutes the supreme war crime, that of an unprovoked, preventive war of aggression similar to Nazi Germany’s invasion of Poland in 1939 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm, http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/13670, and http://www.counterpunch.org/freeman09172003.html)

Over one million Iraqis died, including over 500,000 children, as a result of the sanctions imposed by George H.W. Bush after the 1991 Gulf War and then maintained by Bill Clinton and George W. Bush until the U.S./U.K. invasion in March, 2003 (http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/418625.stm, http://www.infowars.net/articles/march2007/270307Iraq_toll.htm, and http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011203/cortright) as all three administrations tried to provoke “regime change” in Iraq

Detainees held in U.S. prisons in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in Afghanistan, and in Iraq have been tortured (http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/afx/2005/06/24/afx2110388.html and http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/)

CIA “Rendition” (kidnapping) of terrorist suspects to nations known to torture started in the Clinton administration, continued and increased under Bush, and was known by “top officials” (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/04/ and http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR510512006)

U.S. forces have committed war crimes by using weapons such as napalm (Mark 77 firebombs), depleted uranium, white phosphorous, and cluster bombs in Iraq (http://www.brusselstribunal.org/WMD.htm, http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/, http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11020.htm, and http://www.consumersforpeace.org/pdf/war_crimes_iraq_.pdf)

Between 600,000 and one million Iraqis have died since the March, 2003 illegal U.S./U.K. invasion and occupation* (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/11/, http://pressesc.com/news/)

In spite of prior warnings, Bush failed to have the New Orleans levees repaired or see New Orleans was properly prepared for Hurricane Katrina (http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,372455,00.html and http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11627394/)

Bush admitted he broke the FISA law, an impeachable offense (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1216-01.htm, http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20051230.html, and http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/19/1515212)

*If you consider the one million Iraqis who died as a result of the 1991-2003 sanctions and the one million who have died since the 2003 invasion, the word genocide comes to mind. If you consider the four million Iraqi refugees resulting from our invasion and occupation, and the resulting sectarian violence causing the creation of unprecedented sectarian enclaves in Iraq, the term ethnic cleansing comes to mind.

As Americans, supposedly believing in the rule of law, supposedly believing in fairness and compassion, what do we do now that we know these facts?
Do we deny them because they clash with our view of America as the “greatest country in the world”?

Do we shrug and say, “Well, every country has its dark side”?

Do we throw up our hands and complain that we can’t do much because Cheney and Bush have so much power and, besides, they’ll be out of office soon?

Or do we simply turn the page and see what else is on TV?

The “Good Germans” who did nothing had similar reactions while Hitler destroyed Europe and murdered 6 million Jews, and 5 million Poles, Russians, Communists, homosexuals and other “non-Aryans” in his death camps. They denied, or accepted and approved, or said they didn’t know, or (justifiably for many) feared punishment or death in Hitler’s dictatorship.
But we don’t live in a dictatorship.

And we DO know what has been done in our name.

So who are we? What have we become?

Right now there are three massive U.S. aircraft carrier task forces in the Persian Gulf, and B-1 and B-2 bombers and many fighters on airfields in countries surrounding Iran. They are there waiting for Bush, with Cheney’s urging, to give the signal to repeat “shock and awe’, this time on the Iranian people.

Right now another propaganda campaign, similar to that which preceded our 2003 Iraq invasion, is beginning, but this time charging Iran with unproven “evils” against our troops in Iraq. Again it is accepted without challenge by our compliant, corporate mainstream media with its many links to the so-called “defense” industry. Meanwhile, that same media distracts us with “coverage” of Larry Craig’s men’s room saga, or the death of Princess Di ten years later, or John Edwards’ haircuts, or Britney, or Lindsay, or Paris, or…

And right now, Iranian forces are accused, with little, if any, solid evidence, of helping kill U.S. soldiers in Iraq. Meanwhile, ignored by our media, U.S. special forces and CIA operatives are in Iran selecting targets for our planes, drones, and cruise missiles and supporting anti-Iranian government groups there. In effect, we have been waging war on Iran from inside Iran for almost two years already (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4180087.stm and http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0620-31.htm).

And now Bush wants our always-accommodating Congress, Democrats and Republicans, to declare a part of Iran’s military as “terrorists.” This will enable him to attack Iran without Congressional authorization.

These are also facts.

So what will you do about this?

Will you be a “Good German”?
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:09 AM
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1. K/R
I somehow think people know my answer already...
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:25 AM
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2. KR'd
Happy to give this rec. #5
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:41 AM
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3. K&R n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 12:56 PM
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4. K&R/Bookmarked.
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 12:59 PM by bvar22
Does being a "Good German" include voting for "Democratic" candidates who refuse to oppose these outrages?

Does being a "Good German" include voting for Democrats who support forcing the "Oil Law" Benchmark on the Iraqi people? (The Only Democratic Candidate who opposes the "Oil Law" is Dennis Kucinich)

Does being a "Good German" include supporting Democrats who refuse to hold the Bush Administration accountable? (No Impeachment)
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 06:00 PM
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7. You are on point here and most will ignore your comment!
I think you make great points that people aren't willing to acknowledge, its points the finger at too many people here. The primaries will show you where we all stand on the issues when we make that important vote. Will the American people vote to for a candidate to continue this nonsense and step in line to be that "Good German" or will they make a vote that could save America from a dark path? This is probably one of the most important presidential elections that I have seen in my time and I hope EVERYONE wakes up before its time to make that vote!
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 01:34 AM
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9. Better a "Good American"
Better to be a "Good American" and find "Good Democrats" to oppose those who believe being a "Good German" is being a "Good American" in the 2008 elections. In all the elections including state and local elections. Particularly the judicial elections. Getting rid of the Nazis on our benches is just as important as getting rid of them in our local governments and our state legislatures and our Congress. And it is our Congress. Time to take it back.

And her constituents need to take a look at Congress when they take a look at Nancy Pelosi. It is still not our Congress. They need to find a Cindy Sheehan who isn't afraid of being a Democrat.

We saved the Germans from their madness. Who will save us from ours?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 01:05 AM
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8. Only an idealogical purist would ever ask such a question!
:applause:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 03:43 PM
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5. K&R
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 03:44 PM
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6. Bookmarked, Thanks for all the links. Nom
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:50 AM
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10. I've never been a "good' anything
and I'm not starting now.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:16 AM
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11. No, we are definitely not "Good Germans"
The Germans who did nothing during World War II had an excuse - they knew exactly what the Gestapo would do to them if they resisted or even protested. We have no such excuse. As bad as they are, Bush is not Hitler, Cheney is not Goebbels. There's no Gestapo here. And, we do not appear to need one - we're censoring ourselves, we're letting Bush and Cheney get away with their campaign to shear us of our rights. We're even cooperating in their scheme, helping them.

Which is not part of American history or culture - in the past, we have always protested attempts by self-declared elites to elevate themselves over the rest of us.

So, in fact, far from being "Good Germans" - we're no longer even good Americans!
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:16 AM
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12. i don't wanna be the good german
to the georgie, the stupid hitler.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:09 PM
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13. Another tremendous post, Joanne. Bookmarked for future reference.
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