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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:23 AM
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White House protecting faith-based hiring
Sunday, July 27, 2003





White House protecting faith-based hiring
By Dan K. Thomasson
Scripps Howard News Service

WASHINGTON — George W. Bush doesn't want to give up on his faith-based initiative even though more and more it looks like a bad idea whose time really shouldn't come. Compounding that impression is the president's latest proposal — that religious organizations participating in such a program should be free of concern about their hiring practices.
In other words, those religious groups that naturally discriminate against gays and others as a part of their faith should not be forced to hire them to comply with regulations prohibiting such practices for those who accept federal funds. The argument put forth in a position paper sent to Congress is that "religious hiring rights" are a matter of civil rights.
Actually, there seems to be a lot of confusion in this area, stemming from the fact that the federal civil rights law adopted in 1972 says that religious groups can make hiring decisions based on their beliefs — which, in the opinion of at least one court, include views on sexual orientation. But the laws governing some social service programs, such as job training, prohibit groups receiving federal funds from refusing to hire because of age, gender, race or national origin. There are no federal laws banning hiring discrimination because of sexual orientation, but there are statutes in a number of states that do.
What the White House wants to do, according to the position paper that re-emphasizes long-standing Bush policy, is to clear up the discrepancy and insulate faith-based hiring from state laws. It wants the courts to decide whether state bans on hiring discrimination should apply to religious organizations, mainly, it seems those that disavow gays and lesbians.
Confused? Well, the question of how to keep those whose beliefs or sexual orientation you oppose off the payrolls of your charitable effort has been a major sticking point in the adoption of this presidential initiative. Congress has shown little inclination to adopt what opponents see as a violation of the constitutional separation of church and state. Even some religious organizations view the program as dangerously opening the door to state control of their activities, including hiring. (snip/...)

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,510042411,00.html


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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 01:36 AM
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1. Gawd.....................
I wish they'd just give up on this 'faith-based' stuff. I'm sure there are some decent charities that deserve the Federal bucks, but as a rule they're a bunch of biggoted christian clubs. There exists a plethora of well run established charities, but if they're not preaching along with their aid, the fundies don't want any part of them.
Everything about this administration rubs me the wrong way, there isn't one thing I can think of that they're not screwing up. My Mom told me "never wish your time away", but I sure as hell wish it were November 2004 right now.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 11:42 PM
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2. Yes, but it's a "political patronage" thing he's got going there.
He'll give them money if they'll vote for him.

Same-old, same-old.

What a crock of shit.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:34 AM
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3. i wish the wiccans would sue for their fair share
of faith based initiatives....

All the other non Christian religions as well... but the Wiccans especially.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:49 AM
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4. I guess you better be a Jew for Jesus....
Where are the lawsuits?
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