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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:20 AM
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Taser puts a laser on UF (The Gainesville Sun)
The Gainesville Sun, September 20, 2007

Taser puts a laser on University of Florida


By JACK STRIPLING

For an emerging group of University of Florida student activists, Andrew Meyer is a catalyst - not a martyr.


Regardless of what students think about Meyer, the UF student who was Tasered by police at a political event Monday, some now say Meyer's story has provided them with a national platform they intend to use.

Assembled on campus in protest Wednesday, students said Meyer's story has renewed ongoing concerns, particularly about free speech being stifled on UF's campus.

Justin Newman, a UF student who's participated in recent protests, said Meyer being silenced with a Taser gun is just the latest and most public example of affronts to free speech at UF. While many UF Police Department officers have actually helped promote open discourse on campus, others have been oppressive and have used intimidation tactics, according to Newman.

"Andrew Meyer is not a martyr," Newman, 24, said. "He is not a martyr for this cause. He happened to have it happen to him, which got everybody speaking about it, but this is an issue that's been occurring for quite some time."

Newman claims to have been a recent victim of what some describe as oppressive tactics used by UPD. He says he was "personally thrown to the ground" by an officer during a protest at Emerson Alumni Hall Tuesday, although UPD never received a formal complaint about the incident, said UF Police Chief Linda Stump.

So, was Meyer's Tasering at a forum with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., an affront to free speech? That depends on whom you ask.

(...)

Organizers of the town hall forum said it was Meyer's use of a vulgar term to describe a sex act connected with the Bill Clinton impeachment that ultimately led to the microphone being turned off and Meyer's subsequent removal from the auditorium.

Others, however, suggested that the spirit of Meyer's questions made organizers uncomfortable. Among those critics is Greg Palast, author of a book Meyer was holding when he questioned Kerry about conceding the 2004 presidential election when there was clear evidence of black voters being suppressed.

In a Wednesday telephone interview with The Sun, Palast said he wasn't surprised to see his book, "Armed Madhouse," generating heated response.

"When you bring up uncomfortable stuff, it's going to create discomfort," said Palast, who reports for BBC Newsnight and writes for Harpers and Vanity Fair. "Obviously, if he was speaking about baseball scores - if he maybe had a different political viewpoint that wasn't seen as combative or outside of what's permissible - then the cops' backs wouldn't have been up."

For some free speech advocates like Palast, Meyer's Tasering is an extreme example of silencing dissent and controversy. But students at UF also complain of more subtle tactics they say hamper free speech on campus. As recently as Tuesday, when students assembled on UF's Plaza of the Americas to protest Meyer's Tasering, UF police took actions that intimidated students, according to Benjamin Dictor, one of the protesters.

"Pictures were taken of student protesters yesterday by police officers, as well as requests for names and student ID numbers," Dictor, 20, said.

"These two things are explicitly wrong in terms of when students exercise their rights to free speech. They are also entitled to be free of persecution as a result of that. I can't emphasize that enough, and I can't emphasize how that trust was broken again yesterday even after the Taser event."

(...)

Read the full article (with links to further coverage) here:
http://www.gainesvillesun.com/article/20070920/NEWS/709200326/-1/news07
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:24 AM
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1. Don't use the word "blowjob" in a public debate (even if there are no kids in the room)
If you do they will turn off your microphone and remove you from the auditorium.

This seems to be the message coming from the "organizers of the town hall forum". :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:31 AM
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2. Good for the students at UofFlorida!
The tasering of Andrew Meyer did shine the light on their grievences of stifling discourse on campus.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:40 AM
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3. "They are also entitled to be free of persecution as a result of that."
That is...unless they are a rude, attention whore, with a website to promote and then it is ok to persecute them.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:41 AM
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4. "Friends of Meyer say he's extremely political"
Here are excerpts from an article by the same reporter, published yesterday:

The Gainesville Sun, September 19, 2007

Taser Aftershock


By JACK STRIPLING


Following the Tasering of a University of Florida student at a political event Monday, the university has been thrust into a growing national debate about the limits of free speech, the appropriate role of law enforcement and the politically charged environment of modern times.

The incident that has sparked such controversy took place Monday afternoon, when 21-year-old Andrew Meyer was arrested and shot with a Taser gun during a town hall forum attended by U.S. Sen. John Kerry.

Meyer had approached an open microphone to question Kerry, but his microphone was cut off when he used some salty language that drew organizers' objections. Shortly thereafter, UF Police Department officers tried to physically remove him from the University Auditorium, but resorted to the use of a Taser gun when he did not "comply," according to officers.

(...)

Speaking on behalf of protesting students, Benjamin Dictor told reporters that the UF incident was one of a series of recent incidents that indicate an erosion of civil liberties in the United States. Dictor described the silencing and subsequent Tasering of Meyer as an assault on free speech, adding that "our Constitution has been trampled."

"What happened in that auditorium was not only a physical assault but an assault on reason itself," said Dictor, a 20-year-old political science major.

(...)

Friends of Meyer say he's extremely political, noting that he has been passionate about the 2004 election, which he thought Kerry rightfully won.

"He's not crazy or anything," said Robert Campbell, a UF student and a friend of Meyer's. "The only thing he is is a little bit extreme with his views."

While some are critical of Meyer's ranting at the Kerry forum, others are embracing him as symbol of free speech. Huddled among a crowd of protesters, one wielding a sign that asked "who will guard the guards," Austin Flickstein rallied against what he described as the silencing of a young man who had a right to be heard.

"Yes, his questioning went a little bit beyond what some of the administration's ears are used to, but only because he was expressing some thoughts that haven't been heard for a very, very long time," said Flickstein, a 21-year-old UF student. "And then it was force that they used to suppress the free speech. The issue here is our suppressing of free speech. Yes, Tasering is unnecessary. But what is most creepy and scary about this is why did six cops need to tackle a man down and Taser him when he was already on the ground because he was asking questions?"

http://www.gainesvillesun.com/article/20070919/NEWS/709190330/0/sports
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:57 AM
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5. Headline has been changed on Gainesville Sun website
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:55 AM
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6. Early morning kick!
:kick:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:36 PM
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7. WHY WE HAVE DECIDED TO BEGIN TO EXERCISE OUR RIGHTS AGAIN (1964)
"We have no way to negotiate about our rights. We see no way to get them ..other than to exercise them publicly. We ask for no more than our rights; we will not settle for less. We ask your understanding and support." http://www.fsm-a.org/leaflets/whydecided.html

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu.nyud.net:8090/MRC/savio.jpg

... In September 1964 Mario Savio, the son of a Roman Catholic machinist proud of his son's commitment to social justice, returned to campus after teaching at a freedom school in McComb during that greatest of Mississippi summers. Savio discovered that the campus authorities had declared off limits for advocates of civil rights and other causes a stretch of Telegraph Avenue, the Bancroft strip, just outside the main gate to the Berkeley campus. For years the strip had been accepted as a place where students could hand out pamphlets, solicit names for petitions, and sign people up. But recently it had become identified with demonstrations against Berkeley and Oakland businesses that practiced discrimination. One of the demonstrators' chief targets was the Oakland Tribune, the East Bay newspaper published by William Knowland, the conservative United States Senator. The students' activities antagonized conservative university Regents and they pressured Berkeley to close the campus as a recruiting ground for activists and restrict student agitation in adjacent areas.

The ban set off a firestorm. Students who had taken on HUAC, Mississippi racists, Senator Knowland, and the East Bay business community were not about to be denied their rights by the likes of Clark Kerr. Groups representing SLATE members, anti-HUAC demonstrators, civil rights militants, and ordinary students, some of them conservative, protested the university's actions.

On September 29 the demonstrators defiantly set up tables on the Bancroft strip and refused to leave when told to do so. The next day university officials took the names of five protesters and ordered them to appear for disciplinary hearings that afternoon. Instead of five students, five hundred, led by Mario Savio, marched to Sproul Hall, the administration building, and demanded that they be punished too. Three leaders of the march were added to the list of offenders, and all eight were suspended.

The event that converted protest into rebellion occurred on October 1. As students arrived for classes that morning they were greeted by handbills declaring that if they allowed the administration to "pick us off one by one. . . , we have lost the fight for free speech at the University of California." Soon after, CORE, SNCC, the Du Bois Club, Students for a Democrat Society (SDS), and six or seven other groups set up solicitation tables in front of Sproul Hall, the administration building. At 11:00 A.M. the assistant dean of students went up to the CORE table and asked Jack Weinberg to identify himself. Weinberg refused, and the dean ordered campus police to arrest him. A veteran of the civil rights movement, Weinberg went limp in standard civil disobedience mode when the guards carried him to a waiting car. Bystanders and observers quickly came to his rescue. In minutes hundreds of protesters, singing the civil rights anthem, "We Shall Overcome," and chanting, "Let him go! Let him go!" surrounded the car, preventing it from leaving to cart Weinberg off to security headquarters ... http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/berkeley.html
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 06:53 AM
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8. Thanks for this
I hope some of the folks who were slamming Andrew Meyer last week here on DU have had a chance to (re-)consider the importance of free speech and why we must need defend it every time it is attacked.
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