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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:38 PM
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Let's try partitioning the US
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18493.htm

Let's try partitioning the US

By Linda S. Heard
Special to Gulf News

10/02/07 "Gulf News" -- -- As if they haven't done enough damage bombing and invading a country on false pretences, destroying its culture and leaving it a charred shell of its former self, they - American lawmakers who gave President George W. Bush authority to go to war - now want to divide Iraq up into easily manageable bite size entities.

Isn't Iraq supposed to be a sovereign nation with an elected government? If so, then why is the US Senate attempting to meddle in its affairs by overwhelmingly passing a resolution calling for the country's partition into three, which is tantamount to ethnic cleansing? Not to put too fine a point the shape of Iraq to come isn't their business.

Moreover, even if they had a stake in the country they are responsible for destroying, which they certainly do not, American senators who may or may not have enjoyed a two-day jaunt to Baghdad's Green Zone are not qualified to be the deciders.

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How about giving California back to Mexico, returning Hawaii to its indigenous islanders and Alaska to the Eskimos and Indians?

Let's restrict Caucasians to the East and West coasts, and package-up a few states in between for African Americans and Latinos. And while we're about it, let's invite foreign conglomerates to buy up the country's oil, gas and timber.

Outrageous ethnic cleansing that might be but that's exactly what Biden and friends think they have the right to do in Iraq. Surely if such uninformed nose-poking is good enough for Washington, it's equally appropriate for the rest of us.


Linda S. Heard is a specialist writer on Middle East affairs. She can be contacted at lheard@gulfnews.com. Response to this article may be considered for publication
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:03 PM
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1. Aw, fer cryin out loud. "Iraq" is not some ancient or even self-determined
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 08:04 PM by daninthemoon
country. It was drawn onto a map by the British after WWII. The actual people living there divide and identify themselves tribally. That is part of why Hussein was so well liked by earlier US governments. It took a dictator to keep those British imposed borders. Also, Biden is at least trying to find a way for us to be able to leave with a minimum of this tribal conflict. This whole war never should have been allowed to happen. That is the "imposition".
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:39 PM
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2. She's got a point imo, and lives there, so maybe she'd be worth
listening to instead of doing what's 'convenient' for the US.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:54 AM
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5. I'm sure Serbians would agree if we were talking about the former Yugoslavia...
...or more recently, the Kosovo war. What if this proposal had come from the UN General Assembly, would you be as willing to dismiss it out-of-hand? Your writer may have had a point, but I worry it may have already be shot and left for dead in the river of blood flowing through Iraq.
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Sufficient Voice Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:18 AM
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12. Exactly
And as best I can tell, there may actually be some merit to this plan. I personally want the Kucinich withdraw plan, but Biden's plan seems like one of the most common sense things we can do to lesson the chance of all out civil war. We could help set this in motion quickly before withdraw.
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:54 PM
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3. Indian Reservations are parcels of land set apart
from White People in the United States of America and Canada.

Each Reservation is "Bite Size" partition and easily digestible for the bigots that FEAR the Red Man.



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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 12:56 AM
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4. And neighborhoods are regularly busted or redlined
I feel like an internal refugee ... why the hell did my family have to move when I was 12, just because we were the last whites on our block in East Flatbush?

Until we see our own society clearly, we'll continue to make others miserable, with a few to enjoy the spoils.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:35 AM
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6. I Think Partioning the US, Which Was Thwarted in 1865, an Excellent Idea
and my reason is, the South doesn't want to be part of a republic, and the North doesn't want to be part of a fascist empire. So divide up into two teams, and let's see where people thrive and choose to live.

Not only would it save money and lives and permit self-determination, it would take the thorns out of a lot of paws.

And if Iraqis feel a similar desire, more power to them! But get the US army out of there, and send the mercenaries to Gitmo for rehabilitation.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:26 AM
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7. Hell no!
Do you know how many Southerners would be immediate outcasts and/or outlaws because of the fast rise of theocratic rule?

I'm one of those Southerners and would be a refugee. No thanks - the larger US is just fine with me.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:03 AM
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9. You Are Welcome to Come Up to Heaven
There's no reason why you would be confined to one location....lots of Southern natives have thrived on the shores of the Great Lakes....
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:33 PM
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19. I'd love to but...
My blood is too thin. I'm used to two and 1/2 seasons now, and I can sit outside all day in 100 plus heat!

:D
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:40 PM
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20. We Know How to Warm You Up!
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Sufficient Voice Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:21 AM
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13. Umm.
Did you just happen to forget that this would have meant slavery would have continued?

Or that several European powers were in favor of the Civil War, because they were hoping it would lead to a weakened or separated US that they could reinstate influence over?

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 11:35 AM
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15. And Your Point Is?
Better to cut off the arm that offends you---or something of that nature, than to be forced into slavery 200 years later by the forces you "defeated" but which would not concede.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:28 AM
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8. Just give us here in the Great Lakes (Michigan, Ill., Wisconsin, Minn) .....
the east coast from DC up to Maine, and the Pacific Coast to Canada. Geographically and politically, it would work! :)
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:04 AM
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10. Not DC!
That place should be under quarrantine!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:27 AM
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11. The DC where people actually live....The "official" part of it can join Virginia....
:)
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 10:53 AM
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14. I think the people of those regions are politically closer to Canada.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 11:36 AM
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16. Is This a Problem?
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:17 PM
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17. No, it is why something like this should take place.
All the major reforms I think are needed to make this country better are blocked by the legislators of the South.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:21 PM
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18. what about us here in ohio we're starting to turn,... ever so slowly.
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