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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 01:00 PM
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Bush’s torturers follow where the Nazis led

The Brit gets it!


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article2602564.ece


From The Sunday Times
October 7, 2007

Bush’s torturers follow where the Nazis led
Andrew Sullivan


I remember that my first response to the reports of abuse and torture at Guantanamo Bay was to accuse the accusers of exaggeration or deliberate deception. I didn’t believe America would ever do those things. I’d also supported George W Bush in 2000, believed it necessary to give the president the benefit of the doubt in wartime, and knew Donald Rumsfeld as a friend.

It struck me as a no-brainer that this stuff was being invented by the far left or was part of Al-Qaeda propaganda. After all, they train captives to lie about this stuff, don’t they? Bottom line: I trusted the president in a time of war to obey the rule of law that we were and are defending. And then I was forced to confront the evidence.

From almost the beginning of the war, it is now indisputable, the Bush administration made a strong and formative decision: in the absence of good intelligence on the Islamist terror threat after 9/11, it would do what no American administration had done before. It would torture detainees to get information.

This decision was and is illegal, and violates America’s treaty obligations, the military code of justice, the United Nations convention against torture, and US law. Although America has allied itself over the decades with some unsavoury regimes around the world and has come close to acquiescing to torture, it has never itself tortured. It has also, in liberating the world from the evils of Nazism and communism, and in crafting the Geneva conventions, done more than any other nation to banish torture from the world. George Washington himself vowed that it would be a defining mark of the new nation that such tactics, used by the British in his day, would be anathema to Americans.

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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 01:12 PM
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1. DUers could send this (former?) lunatic the following links:
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 01:19 PM by Amonester
Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1547206&mesg_id=1547206

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BFEE (Bush Family Evil Empire)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x3087


(If I knew how, I sure would. It's long overdue for the unconscious enablers of fascism to learn about the true story.)
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