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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:46 AM
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Shooting proves that policies need change
http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/1017roberts1017.html


Yet another police officer shot during a routine traffic stop. Officer Bret Glidewell is the third Valley cop shot this year in a routine situation. The second one shot, police say, by an illegal immigrant.

Glidewell survived, by the grace of God and Kevlar. But it must be said: it took a bullet to the chest before Phoenix police were allowed to call Immigration and Customs Enforcement to check on whether this guy was entitled to be here.

<snip>

Glidewell was on patrol Sunday, six days after the Valley's police chiefs announced they have no intention of allowing their officers to notify ICE about people they suspect are here illegally unless they're arrested for serious crimes. It was 5 p.m. when Glidewell pulled over a pickup for running a stop sign. So naturally, the driver shot him, aiming at the 22-year-old officer's heart.

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As the driver likely would have been on Sunday had he refrained from shooting a cop. This, despite the fact that it's a felony for an illegal immigrant to have a gun.


It may be true, as Harris says, that illegal immigrants commit no more crimes than anyone else, but even one is too many if you're not supposed to be here. It is absolutely true that the federal government is to blame.

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No one wants the police to become the Gestapo (OK, some do). No one wants the cops to illegally target Hispanics. Plenty of us want the border secured and those already here - the vast majority of illegal immigrants who don't cause trouble - to be given a chance to stay.

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When did the rule of law become anarchy?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:04 PM
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1. Wait, i don't get it
So if the officer had asked about the shooter's immigration status, he wouldn't have been shot? What does one have to do with the other? Or was the point that the shooter was afraid of deportation and therefore had greater incentive to shoot the officer?
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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:47 PM
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3. Question 2.
Or was the point that the shooter was afraid of deportation and therefore had greater incentive to shoot the officer?


In the complete editorial, it states that the shooter had been pulled over multiple times and if the police had run the check, chances are that he would have been detained and deported prior to this incident.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:15 PM
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2. President about to bomb Iran and start WWIII?
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 12:20 PM by Th1onein
QUICK! Look over there! An illegal immigrant!

Illegal immigration is this election cycle's big bogeyman. It's the wedge issue guarantee to keep on giving. Last election cycle it was gay marriage. Both of these issues are WEDGE issues; meant to put the Hispanics, one of the largest of our ethnic groups, against the rest of the working class. Who benefits from the division of the American electorate? The corporations; the people who are running this country.

Go ahead and buy into it. It's what "they" want. They want you to NOT pay attention to what's really going on, to what is really important. They want to divide us. They want us to NOT vote in our own best interests, but instead to focus on hating each other.

And that's all the time I'm going to waste on this thread.
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