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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:06 PM
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Why Are Democrats Getting Nervous?
Why Are Democrats Getting Nervous?

Despite good news from state-level elections this week, Democrats seem to be increasingly concerned about 2008.

Terence Samuel | November 9, 2007 | web only


This week Democrats recorded impressive election wins in Virginia and Kentucky, and the polls continue to show that Americans are ready for a change. President Bush's job-approval rating, at 34 percent, is setting endurance records, and according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, Americans say they would support a Democrat by a 50 percent to 35 percent margin over a Republican to succeed the president.

So why then are Democrats, all of a sudden, increasingly concerned about 2008?

Part of the answer can be found in that same WSJ/NBC News poll in which the Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton is essentially in a dead-heat with her GOP counterpart Rudy Giuliani. In a direct match-up between the two of them, Clinton leads Giuliani 46 percent to 45 percent.

This is not how it was supposed to be. This was going to be an election that Democrats ran away with, the one that could salve the wounds of 2000 and 2004 and spare the country the agony of another nail-biter of an election night. If we were lucky, we thought it would provide some brief respite from the hand-to-hand political and cultural combat of the last two decades because we were going to vote on Iraq, and on that we were not so divided anymore. Well, so much for all that.

In truth, there was never any chance of a blowout. We know that whatever the political climate now, it is going to change once each party had a nominee. The Democratic strategy then was to tie the Republican nominee to Bush in hopes that the president's unpopularity would sink him. With Clinton looking the runaway Democratic winner, Republicans may have gotten the jump in that department.

"I think the '08 election is going to be about Senator Clinton and where she wants to take America," said Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. "So the landscape next year, in my view, is going to be about this new Congress and its presidential nominee ... and where they want to take America."

This is not necessarily a landscape that a lot of Democrats are really comfortable with.

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http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=why_are_democrats_getting_nervous
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:10 PM
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1. two quetions
when was the primary?

And two shouldn't they be worried? After all the people are really pissed at Congress right now
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:15 PM
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2. It's one person's opinion and it's speculation; I thought it was interesting.
That's pretty much what this forum is for, I'm thinking. And hello to you.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:33 PM
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6. Here is the problem I am having
the incredible certainly that HRC will be the nominee

Given the pattern that Fox started pushing her candidacy the day after last years election... is one of those things that make you go hmmm

That is why I get suspicious

As is... what they say about her, insert generic democratic candidate here...

The RNC will make it about the candidate (distraction mostly) and where they will take us as a country.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:44 PM
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9. I'm with you, nadi. I don't have that certainty at all despite all the
rethugs seeming to push that agenda. As for the thugs, their candidates are unusually lame imo. Maybe that's because I'm not one, but really! Robertson endorsed Ghouliani? What was that about? They're grasping at straws!
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:19 PM
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3. It will be the same republicans in 2008 as it is right now
Bush is a millstone around the republican's necks, and he will still be a millstone in 2008.

Don't just drop the topic about bush, he started this illegal war and it is up to the Democrats to fix it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:42 PM
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8. Alot of them are retiring; they see the writing on the wall. nt
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 06:54 AM
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20. Some of them are retiring because they supported bush
The voters need to know the root cause of the majority of our problems were caused by the policies of the bush white house. Don't drop the issue because bush is not running in 2008. Keep informing people that bush did not act alone, he had help from the REPUBLICANS in congress. These Republicans need to be replaced with Democrats.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:25 AM
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17. But that's the point, The Democratic Leadership is NOT fixing it - with 11 % approval rating.
People are disgusted with "all of Congress." IMO, the primaries are not going to prove to be a "shoe-in" for incumbent democrats.

Yes, people of compassion and humanity will most often vote *democratic* but the crony leadership within Congress who've seemingly been around since Jesus was a Corporal have GOOD REASON to be nervous. :evilgrin:
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 06:50 AM
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19. Congressmen have to sell themselves in their districts
What I am saying is don't stop reminding the voters who got us into this mess! It was REPUBLICANS led by GEORGE BUSH #43 who started an ILLEGAL WAR!

Democrats are not the problem with government. Democrats are the solution to the problem.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:19 PM
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4. I seem to remember reading recently
that Emperor Cheney said he had no doubt a Repugnican would be elected President next year.:freak:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:44 PM
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10. Rove said that before 06; that's the stock answer. nt
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:32 PM
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5. Two observations
Not everybody loves the Clintons. I voted for Bill twice and I still have doubts about both of them.

Rudy is not a lock for the GOP nomination. He is a deeply flawed individual. Hillary may yet find herself running against Mike Huckaby
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:34 PM
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7. OR another democrat may get the nod
historically early leaders don't get the nod
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:45 PM
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11. Or, she may not be running against anyone. nt
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 07:12 AM
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21. Huckaby or McCain
McCain is probably their strongest candidate.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:17 PM
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12. Can the Democrats walk and chew gum at the same time?
We are getting a candidate we don't want, and congress is not doing the bidding of the people. It's not rocket science: The Dems took their victory a year ago and pissed it away.

But, apparently the DLC is happy.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:36 PM
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13. There is no time
America needs to know RIGHT NOW if they will do the ONLY thing that really matters and IMPEACH IMMEDIATELY. Or are they sticking with the regime? They really MUST give us an answer RIGHT NOW! We need someone to stand up and ask the whole congress, out loud, in public, "Are you going to do your duty as representatives of our Constitution? Or are you members of the Bush regime? Please answer us NOW!":mad:
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:42 PM
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14. Sorry
I'm kinda pissed. Maybe that post doesn't belong in this thread.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:54 PM
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15. Don't apologize....
The Democrats are making me want to scream and throw things. It's a rational response, given their behavior.

Welcome to DU!
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:01 AM
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16. Thanks
Glad to be here(?). Wish we didn't have to go through all of this and still see no change. Timing says we should all be reaching the end of our rope. I'm beginning to feel pretty stupid watching how they operate...and the regime still gets its way!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:45 AM
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18. That sums it up nicely.
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