Elites & Fascists are beginning to realize that the internet is their ultimate enemy.

Over the centuries and millennia, the "Have's" controlled and enslaved the "Have Not's", not only with police terrorism, but also by keeping the peasants, peons, serfs, etc. (i.e., US!) propagandized into impotent stupor. And how absurd to call this a Class War. This is like saying a class war exists between cattle and the factories that butcher them.

This point is infinitely important! Elite terrorism has NEVER been enough to permit the 1% to enslave the 99%. This has always been the paradox of history. How can Greek God like elites (the 1%) so abjectly subjugate all the rest of the human race (the 99%)?

The answer is obvious. The pig, pig rich have always been masters of propaganda. They have contrived thousands of different ways to convince the rest of the human planet that “being a slave” is not only normal but pathologically moral.

Extreme examples of this stand out like: "Divine Right" or "survival of the fittest" (political/social, not scientific), "Manifest Destiny" (a sadistic fairy tale of American elites), and on and on.

The point is, WITHOUT this brainwashing and basically totally lack of communication among the "lower and middle classes" (shall we say it like that?); the pitiful 1% would be eaten alive, sadistic goose steppers, or no sadistic goose steppers.

But now, the internet! And FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY the suckers and slaves are communicating among ourselves in the millions.

Very rarely in human history has some event or technology "quantum jumped" the human race into a different dimension. Certainly atomic energy would be a candidate, but far less spectacularly, so has the internet.

There's probably no human being alive who comprehends even a TENTH of how the internet is mutating the human condition.

Communication is power. May we say that again? Communication is power and the internet is communication gone ballistic. The only mathematical model equal to the challenge is exponential growth, and probably the communication change between now and five years from now will be a hundred times greater than the change between five years ago and now.

In short, in the language of calculus, the rate of change is itself changing. That's the difference between velocity (first derivative) and acceleration (second derivative). It's not just that communication keeps growing; it's that communication change is ACCELERATING.

Of course the Devil's Advocate would say, so what, who cares? Well, let's just hope that retarded Devil's Advocate continues to influence the international "secret society" of the planet's vampire elites, because, again for the first time in human history, dynamics are at now work which are declaring unconditional war on the fascist Police State and the Earth's astronomically rich.

There's JUST NO WAY the Earth's vampire elites can continue to murder Mother Nature, literally millions of "Have Not" children, and all the world's Democratic Republics and get away with it, since the world's 99% is getting closer and closer to some version of "Take this job and shove it!”

In other words, "we're finding ourselves" and realizing that we don't HAVE to be butchered in cattle factories.

So to HELL with this "lower class" crap and "Have Not" crap, and yes even "middle class" crap.

We're all children of the universe and we have a God given and constitutionally given birthright to SHARE THE WEALTH EQUALLY WITH the entire human species. And this applies to Africans, ghetto victims, those wretched New Orleans families Bush seems to hate so much, Independents, Democrats, Republicans (all those nonsense political names), our neighbors, diverse religious groups, atheists, homosexuals, and people with and without facial hair.

NOTHING SHORT OF THIS is humanly acceptable. These's so much wealth on this planet that EVERYONE should be living fulfilling, creative, and healthy lives.

So why aren't we?

It's because there's a literal hell on Earth made of international elites and these "devil's" (metaphor or reality?) have succeeded since the dawn of human history in terrorizing (these are the REAL terrorists) practically all the rest of us into mooing our way into butcher factories.

But all is not lost. They didn't count of the internet and the internet may well be the Salvation of the human race. It's almost as if a technological/scientific God has taken pity on us and has given us the means to reach out to each other in the millions (billions?) and share our pain, loss, and rage.

We cattle people DON'T HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THIS, but until we began to realize that a mere 1% of vampire people (hey, they're totally feeding on our lives -- isn't that a vampire?), we just bowed our heads and "resigned ourselves to the inevitable".

See, that's the key phrase, resigning ourselves to the inevitable, and that resignation was grounded in ignorance. Before we used to live in "pockets" of ignorance. No communication beyond our glorified neighborhoods. No BIG PICTURE understanding of what's really happening "out there".

But, by God now we DO know what's really happening out there and it's enough to make you "take this job and shove it"! Now we know WE'RE the 99% and the multi millionaires and multi billionaires are the 1% (probably significantly less than one percent), but this tiny fraternity/sorority of infinite greed heads is virtually controlling the very breath of our lives.

These people control EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, and EVERYTHING.

Politics is the bone they throw to us to gnaw on while they continue to live like Gods.

Fascism is an appendage of the vampire elites. It's their "police force" to keep us playing by THEIR arbitrary paper rules. It’s our ONE party dem/pug system, and if we need any proof, just look at the DLC Hillary Clinton Doll who is a virtual clone of George W. Bush. The only political distinction in America that now means ANYTHING is between dem/pug fascists and passionate progressives who are desperately holding the line against Nazi fascism. That’s all that’s left of land of the free and the home of the brave.

But (and let's end on this hopeful note), they didn't anticipate the internet. The anti American neocon cabal didn’t anticipate that the cattle and suckers and servants and lower classes and have nots and brainwashed "unwashed" (that’s their word for us -- they also call us the "masses"), would be given the means to communicate with each other on a scale never dreamed by our forbears.

Look, if you've got a million people in a corral and one percent of them have cattle prods and the other 99% is wired to nonstop propaganda about how the 1% DESERVE to live like Gods, this setup can go on (and has!) indefinitely. Indeed, is has been going on since the beginning of recorded history.

But if the 99% suddenly discover that they don't HAVE to listen to all that propaganda crap and that somehow, almost miraculously (the internet!) they discover that they can all talk to each other and share their intelligence, creativity, and rage (which by now is nearly infinite), then all bets are off on the future. Imagine a million cattle straining against the fence all at the same time.

That's all that's necessary. In fact, it’s a thousand times MORE than what is necessary. And the cattle prods? How about sticking them where the sun doesn't shine up the elites.

Revolutions don't have to be violent. Indeed, most of the time they just make things worse when they are violent. But how about revolutions of the spirit? How about revolutions grounded in our souls.

Arguably, the critical mass here is not basements full of guns. No, the critical mass here is simply 99% of us taking our world back because it is the sane, rational, and ethical thing to do.

Yes, the elites are still protected by their fascist thugs. It has always been so. But what has NOT always been so is that now all the rest of us are discovering our common humanity and our common POWER. The internet is empowering us almost beyond belief, but it's not the power of guns and cattle prods. It's the power of the collective human consciousness waking up and realizing that elites are almost certainly going be to "selected out" (one way or another) by the spontaneous processes of evolution.

It's fairly common knowledge that certain species of dinosaurs were both protected and burdened of enormous nose horns. In the end, some of these creatures were literally "brought down" by these counter productive nose horns. This could be a good analogy for the greed vampire international elites in the context of social and biological evolution. Their fabulously specialized wealth inevitably generates nearly limitless toxic by products for the infrastructures of nature and nature has never had any patience with ecological cancers.

All indications are that the human species will survive ONLY as a classless society, and what a coming together of science and religion this would be, since morality, justice, and sanity may well turn out to be the necessary if not sufficient ingredients for human species survival, and correspondingly, the "evil" of elites and fascists is almost certainly the royal road to human extinction.

And factoring the internet into this unimaginably convoluted social/biological stew is catalyzing a quantum jump in the human condition. The human race is now rapidly "waking up" from millennia of cattle conditioning.
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we'd all have to learn to live with less. No refirgerator in every kitchen, bikes, etc.

And the internet? We'd have to hurry and use it for a short time while the electricity was on in our neighborhood.

even on the Internet.

:rofl:

would enable everyone on earth to be adequately clothed, nutritioned, educated, plugged into the rest of the world. His calculations revealed that everyone could have the life of someone with $400M or b dollars. Since then the technology has gotten better. Applying the technologies we have right now we could cut everyone's use of electricity and other resources by around 90%.

The total weight of info on the internet is less than one book.

carried us through the last Revolution.. That is still 2% above the elite.. Fuck Em!

On Edit: I think I will make this line my new signature.. Has a Catchy tune to it.

• 1 Religious elite
• 2 Linguistic elite
• 3 Political elite
• 4 Business elite
• 5 Educational elite
• 6 Financial elite
• 7 Military elite

Probably around the world there are some 65 million people who regard themselves as members of one or more elite groups and about twice that number who are in opposition to the established elite. All the rest are simply average.

They may be heavily influenced by #4, swayed by #1, advised by #6, cautioned by #7 and trained by #2.

But #3 calls the shots.

are interwoven.

They are not separate groups.

Of these groups the politicians in that specific role, they are involved in other groups as well, are the weakest of all. In that specific position they merely rubber-stamp what has been ordained.

And yet mine ears are loath to hear. The fog is thick, the terrain, unknown.

a total takeover by the fascists, dominionists, totalitarians, corporatists, etc. . . in other words, "them thats got" . . .

God Bless The Child
as sung by Billie Holiday

Them thats got shall get
Them thats not shall lose
So the Bible said and it still is news
Mama may have, papa may have
But God bless the child thats got his own
Thats got his own

Yes, the strong gets more
While the weak ones fade
Empty pockets dont ever make the grade
Mama may have, papa may have
But God bless the child thats got his own
Thats got his own

Money, youve got lots of friends
Crowding round the door
When you're gone, spending ends
They dont come no more
Rich relations give
Crust of bread and such
You can help yourself
But dont take too much
Mama may have, papa may have
But God bless the child thats got his own
Thats got his own

Mama may have, papa may have
But God bless the child thats got his own
Thats got his own
He just worry bout nothin
Cause hes got his own

You can count on one thing for sure, the powers that be will attack the Internet precisely because of the reasons, you've stated, they've done it in China, they're doing in Pakistan. They will do it in one form or another whether it be Internet Neutrality or as Karl Rove did in a recent speech attack Internet anonymity, the reason for this is simple, information is power and it's far easier for those with the one way mega phones and vast wealth on their side to attack the messengers as they don't have the facts or truth on their side to attack or debate the messages.

I also believe this was the main motivation as to why the corporate media slandered and libeled Al Gore for so long prior to the selection of 2000, they didn't want the primary political champion of the Internet in the White House, and they still do it to some degree to this day. I call this the Prometheus Effect as in the Information Age, information is the equivalent of fire.

I believe the Internet is humanity's best hope to save it self from it self,.. if we can keep it. I believe nothing can top the creative synergy of the potentiality of millions of multiple minds when put to work on a problem or challenge such as global warming climate change for one or a vast array of other social or economic problems. We all bring different skills and talents to the table, when we use them in a sincere effort. I also believe the times are screaming for a new human consciousness regarding it self and it's relationship to the only home we have, planet Earth and I believe the Internet is ideally suited for this endeavor.

Thanks for the thread.:thumbsup:

Wow! Your point about Gore is awesome. This connection should be made more frequently. Yes, of course you must be right. Gore has been our Sir Lancelot in so many ways and now this too. Thank you again for this wonderful insight.

Bill

because if we don't put the truth out there, the same corporate media that enabled Bush to power by "bearing false witness" against one of the prime champions of the American People will go on to abuse the people's interest in too many ways to count and it will surely lead to the downfall of our democratic republic.


Again thanks for the thread,

Joe

If Religion is the opiate of the masses, TV was the Heroin. That makes the InterTubes the Crystal Meth of the Masses. The most addictive little distraction to come along in a while and, except for the annoying jaw clench, your little fingers are always busy, busy, busy.

Too busy to actually do anything except compulsive busy work. "Hey, my kids are starving, but DAMN! my house is cleeeeeeean! Clean, Clean, Clean!!!

Don't believe me? Look at rape, sex crimes and violent distrubance numbers around the country. Down, down, down..... The theory is, if Jr. is busy wanking to some I'net porn that trips his very specific trigger (like rape fantasy) he's less likey to need to find actual physical release. Ditto for violent disturbance. If you can steal a sweet ride, shoot a cop and run over hookers for 1000 points and get your thrill on without going to jail why even go outside?

And let's see...who owns the InterTube companies that connect you up? Would it be....the HAVES? Who controls the airwaves and the dish networks and the satellites? Oh, yeah...The FREAKIN' HAVES!!! All it takes is a phone call to shut it allllll down. Literally.

You really want to "wake up"? Wake up to the fact that an electronic collar is still a type of yoke. Step over that invisible line and zzzt....what that burning smell...oh, yeah....your ass.

You want to stop being yoked to the plow? Made to work for the "Haves" to put food on their table? Well, stop sleeping in their barn and claiming you are feral now just because you can't feel the yoke.

Cows on meth are still cows. (just very busy cows....busy, busy, busy)




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(I think....)

Edited to say:

Well, well, look what was in my next tab. Information does sometimes cause action.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2328241&mesg_id=2328241

Information is fine. Cows share it all the time. They talk all about the grass they had yesterday, the grass they will have tomorrow, that patch of lemon grass they ran into just before noon, how their cud is coming along, where the weak spot in the fence is...

So? Do I care what the cows in the field behind me are talking about? Not I. Not a care, not a whit. And if a cow gets surly, well there is the tazer...oops, I mean cattle prod. And if the cows want to get together to share stories about cattle prods, that's okay too, as long as I get milk, hamburger and leather for my shoes.

And agreed, in all likelihood, Ol' Tom Paine never torched any houses. What has that got to do with the price of eggs... or veal? If no one ever acted on the words he wrote, what difference would the writing have made?

To assume that our time and place and circumstance is unique in the history of the world as the OP does in his summation: "The human race is now rapidly "waking up" from millennia of cattle conditioning." is insulting to each and every person who has found a way to expand, through action and suffering and real loss the rights of people everywhere; including Thomas Paine. Do you think he was asleep? Do you think he was a mindless cow?

If we are indeed cattle; if our little electronic feedlot, full of our plotting and protestations against injustice and inequality is truly a place where we can strenghten our numbers along with our resolve, how long will it be before the Elite who own everything and run everything shut it down? That is my point. What I said and will repeat is: this whole sphere is a toy, a distraction, because the Elite know: Idle hands are the Devil's playthings.

Here, there are no idle hands. They are busy, busy, busy. You get to preach to the choir each and every day if you want and better yet, to your fellow cattle. A big wallowing self-righteous orgy of anti-everything rage. Here, you get to vent. And like minds agree with you. And when you get to vent and when people normalize your feelings by validating them, you lose that pressure to take action. Something like a general strike or a work stoppage, something that actually nips at pearly white toes in those leather jackboots.

Want to make some real change? In the real world? Do what Thomas Paine did, go out into your town square and post hand-bills so that people who don't use the internet or come to DU or have involvment with anything politcal, can understand what we are trying to free ourselves from. Show them what we want for them and for everyone.

Work, if you must, to open the eyes of the "wretched masses" because here, in this cyberspace, I'm pretty sure we already have some vague understanding of the issues; making it fairly definitive that we don't need another hero to explain them to us.



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Already doing so. Still come here for information, and to try to contribute my bit.

fewer Prague Springs.


More information, they hate information.
More noise, it makes the information harder to hear.

Maybe they've always been running the asylum.

But these days (with the internet) more of us are beginning to notice.

Indeed, and that's more or less the heart of the matter. The moment of truth is whether the fact that "more of us are are beginning to notice " will IN ITSELF catalyze change. A wise man once said that it is truth that liberates, not the effort to be free. This is the essence of what the internet may be creating.

Said differently, knowledge is power and the internet is volcano of knowledge -- person to person communication.

into new age bullshit.

Analogous to Steven Jay Gould's http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/5/l_035_01.html">Punctuated Equilibrium, revolution is by its very definition violent if only because the reactionaries and their class betters always fought to preserve and today, to extend the existing social social relations.

"nonviolent revolution" is an oxymoron that the mind of man can only accept when he also accepts utter baloney like "the spirit" and institutionalized, top-down religious relations as somehow a source of resistance. That is quite simply utter BS.

It's pablum like this that keeps the so-called left down.

There's more to human existence than stone axes. Spirituality admittedly is a catch all term, but it can be (and indeed must be) totally in harmony with science, and ironically is usually trashed by what passes for religion more than anything on the planet. It's counter productively simplistic to not push the envelope -- too much is at stake. The human mind set is typically a straight jacket of unexamined assumptions, and radically transcending those assumptions (or at least some of them) is spiritually liberating. The spiritual dimension is all of a piece with solidarity. We are after all mind/body creatures, not just bodies.

they've been working hard for years now, and with some success, to transform it so that it is less and less a level "town square" for we the people's ideas and more and more a top-down surveillance and targeted-marketing/mind-control tool. See http://c-cyte.blogspot.com/2007/10/control-over-internet-is-underway-all_03.html and http://c-cyte.blogspot.com/2007/06/no-end-in-sight-to-efforts-to-end.html for some info about these efforts.

controlling power class. But as been said elsewhere in this thread, the power owns the internet and can shut it down. They already have already started tightening control. I believe Google has given the government personal data w/o warrants and Youtube.com has censured videos that were embarrassing to the Power. But once us cattle have found out the power of the internet, it would be the wrong decision to shut it off cold turkey. Most likely they will slowly shut down or slow down progressive sights.