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whiteroses Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:30 PM
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Pat Buchanan - "Was Poppy Right After All?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:35 PM
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1. I hate it when I agree with Buchanan!
Americans sense, rightly, that we do not need to occupy Iraq to be secure here at home.

Bush’s father understood this. Is the son wiser? Why did Bush I stop at Basra and not go on to Baghdad? He had no desire to occupy and rule Iraq. He saw no need to. He feared that a U.S. occupation would alienate Arab allies, inflame the Arab street, and invite an Iraqi intifada. He placed a high value on the coalition he had stitched together to fight, and to pay for, the war. He was warned Iraq could split apart and a Shi’ite south sympathetic to Iran could break loose. He did not see a routed Saddam as a mortal threat. He believed Iraq could be deterred, contained.

On this, he was a conservative. Has not history proven him right?




The conservatives (real conservatives, not neocons) are getting very, very uncomfortable with Bush the younger. He is increasingly seen as not being a real conservative.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:37 PM
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3. Buchanan,
no matter how I may feel about his stand on social issues, is dead-on in this article. He's right, in a way few- if any- conservatives these days are.

Politics sometimes does make for interesting bedfellows, no?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:55 PM
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6. He also has a number of conservatives who look to him for guidance
So, if Pat is saying it, then thousands of conservatives are thinking it.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:37 PM
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2. Don't you just hate it when you have to agree with Buchanan?
The other observation I found interesting was that after the Gulf War I - if we had just stayed in place in southern Iraq (no invasion 0 just stay in place for a couple of weeks) instead of falling back to Saudi shortly after victory, this would have been enough to have caused an internal Iraqi-based overthrow AND prevented the Basra uprising disaster.

20-20 hindsight, but probably true nonetheless.

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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:43 PM
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4. I'll say it again and again and again and again.....
I'm always heartened to see a conservative turn against the tide and think for him/her self. But until any and all or even simply some of these people walk into a voting booth and pull the lever for anyone but bush*, their words mean nothing.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:50 PM
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5. I hate it....
when I agree with Pat Buchanan. It makes me feel dirty.

I think I need to go home and take a shower....

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