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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:01 PM Original message |
The Lords of Capital Decree Mass Death by Starvation |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Massive overpopulation of the planet has nothing to do with it... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Global birthrate = 2.54 children per woman. |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. You mean maybe |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Well meaning liberals etc. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. People in the US, Western Europe, and Japan overconsuming |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. There is no food or rice shortage. It's being horded by those who manipulate the market. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. That is ridiculous. Rice can't be "horded". |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Bullshit |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. The rice price spikes began in Sept. 07, long before any of the exporting countries |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. the whole thing is fucked-too many people and too many bad people |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. FOOD the new wealth. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. The food shortage has nothing to do with population. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. 26 billion? |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. I have no problem with using fossil fuels to feed people. |
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ovidsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. hyperbole - pure and simple |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Sure they will, if they don't understand what's going on. |
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ovidsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I may be misreading your post |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I understand, but your thinking is based on the idea of sudden, |
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ovidsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 05:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Just my opinion |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I think you're too dependent on the nyt. Check USDA, FAO, & |
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ovidsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I see your point |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. I agree, tightly managed isn't well-managed. I agree, shortage |
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ovidsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You get another 2 points (from me, at least) |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Well, here's a little more evidence for less than tight conditions: |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Dominant explanations |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. I completely understand that growth can't continue forever unchecked. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. there's no profit without scarcity and monopoly. When they get water, we're really screwed |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Bingo! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. that's why big corporations will never embrace an energy system based on wind, solar, and electric |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Um Hydro cars? the great ignored. |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. I see the great die-off is starting now. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. Food Rationing Confronts Breadbasket of the World |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. The NY Sun is a neo-conservative paper. This silly article, |
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gear_head (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
26. depending on the US is a fatal error |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. the fatal error |
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gear_head (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. eat local food n/t |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
31. biodiesel production doesn't conflict with food: you squeeze out oil & leave edible solids |
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