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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:07 PM
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Bridging Democratic Divisions
Analysis by Carville is on the money:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e22ab770-1ab8-11dd-aa67-0000779fd2ac.html

""Those who dismiss this as identity politics fundamentally underestimate the impact – an impact that could be felt long beyond 2008 – of this contradiction within a contradiction in the traditional factions of the Democratic base.

Underlying all of this is the inevitable game of electoral chicken that is almost certain to erupt at the conclusion of the contest. The winner, with help from the loser, is not only going to have to bridge the fissures within the party but also to find a way to re-embrace those racial and gender identity voters who now find themselves aligned with a new wing of the party. If Mrs Clinton wins the nomination, do the Party B African-Americans who have embraced Mr Obama’s campaign feel comfortable remaining in the party and voting for Mrs Clinton? Conversely, are the Party A, older, college-educated white women comfortable embracing Mr Obama’s candidacy after supporting Mrs Clinton so fervently?""

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:18 PM
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1. I'm an older, college-educated white woman and I support Obama
Carville is, yet again, full of crap.

Democrats who want a Democrat in the White House will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter their name.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:37 AM
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4. We are of the same demographic then.
But I am one of the crossovers.

First time in my life I have understood what it is like to stand with the candidate of the "yokels."

I have, as a result, developed a whole new level of compassion for the working class. Who aren't quite as stupid as we often presume them to be. They get the message, tho, about how we perceive them. Loud and clear. And they defect to the GOp because of it.

So sad.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:25 PM
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2. I'll support anybody but McInsane
but am voting for Clinton in the Primaries. I was going to vote for Obama until I saw how his followers behave on this and other forums. That changed my mind not to mention the fact that he's as bloody well corporate connected as she is.
Candidates have to be in order to get anywhere now - sad truth!

Still, I'll vote for Obama in the GE over McInsane any day.
And yes, I'm an older, college educated woman.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:39 AM
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5. I think Carville is correct here.
Some real work will need to be done to keep all the Dems in the fold, so to speak. My experiences working alongside the working class this past few months... to nominate Hillary.... tell me that won't be easy.

I think it is possible tho. Just not easy.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:37 PM
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3. Carville is was and will forever Be a Clinton/DLC shill. I am tired of them manufacturing divides
they want me to cross while they continue their class war for the uber rich against all of us.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:40 AM
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6. Well, then....
you just ignore this.

But I hope the rest of us do not. I hope we can reach across the divide and return to the big tent, to win in November.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:51 AM
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7. Do you realy think older educated people won't vote for Obama?
This Democratic divide is a manufactured load of BS. The only people who will vote for McSame over Obama would have voted for the senile warmonger anyway. When twice as many people are voting in the Democratic primaries as the rePIGlickin ones there is not much doubt that the Democrats are going to win the White House in 2009.

IF you want to worry about some fictional fracture in the Democratic party; worry on.
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