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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:18 PM
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"20th hijacker" blows up torture argument
"20th hijacker" blows up torture argument
Most Americans don't know the name of Mohammed al Qahtani, the so-called "20th hijacker" who was snagged at the Orlando International Airport in 2001 before he could have allegedly taken part in the 9/11 attacks. However, I suspect the story is known better here in Philadelphia than anywhere else, since the most popular local radio talker, Michael Smerconish, has undertaken taken a campaign to recognize the heroism of the agent who nabbed him. a man named Jose Melendez-Perez.

Smerconish is big on the war on terror, and he also is a prominent advocate for torture. Not "enhanced interrogation," but torture, as spelled out in his 2005 blog post called..."In Support of Torture."...

Meanwhile, al-Qahtani -- a seeming poster child for al-Qaeda terrorism against the United States -- has never been brought to justice, despite nearly seven years in custody, most of those at Guantanamo Bay. And now there are questions over whether he will ever be tried...

What happened? It's not clear, but there is increasing evidence that the prosecution of Mohammed al-Qahtani has been fouled up beyond repair...because he was tortured at Gitmo...

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/20th_hijacker_blows_up_torture_argument.html
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:20 PM
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1. So you can torture them, or you can prosecute them.
You can't do both. Not while maintaining a semblance of the rule of law.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:22 PM
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2. Oh the fucking irony. That the use of torture hurt, not aided, the prosecution of a suspect.
How fucking ironic, huh Bush?
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:46 PM
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3. Of course they don't really want to prosecute them at all. Prosecution would mean
bringing the actual facts out into the open. What they really want is simply to keep them, and anyone else they want, in "detention" permanently.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:39 PM
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4. The news stories this morning say that they have dropped the prosecution.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-05-12-20-hijacker-911-_N.htm

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — The Pentagon has dropped charges against a Saudi at Guantanamo who was alleged to have been the so-called "20th hijacker" in the Sept. 11 attacks, his U.S. military defense lawyer said Monday.

Crawford dismissed the charges Friday without prejudice, meaning they can be filed again later, but the defense only learned about it Monday, Broyles told the Associated Press.


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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:14 PM
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5. I thought Moussaoui was the 20th hijacker. How many 20th's are there?
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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:44 PM
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6. he was such a dodo
that even bin laden didn't want anything to do with him
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:53 PM
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7. not even qualified to be the ultimate crash test dummy
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