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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:12 PM
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'Belief in God childish..." Einstein letter (auction)
more: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080513122249.m3ds3b6j&show_article=1
May 13 08:24 AM US/Eastern


(Man asks court to change his name to 'In God We Trust' in fear of atheism)


Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday.
The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.

As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.

"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this," he wrote in the letter written on January 3, 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, cited by The Guardian newspaper.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:16 PM
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1. There are psychological reasons why people need myths
Einstein didn't deal in myths... this is no surprise to me.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:22 PM
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2. no surprise, many were aware of Einstein's views on this
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:28 PM
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3. Yup. He used "God" only as an expression.
Edited on Tue May-13-08 05:33 PM by RufusTFirefly
By the way, this article is undoubtedly the work of the Devil.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:44 PM
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4. E=MC2 is the work of Satan
Nuclear weapons may yet be the death of us all.

Knowledge is a deady friend when no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind, I see, is in the hands of fools.
-- Epitaph, by King Crimson

Too bad evolution isn't real. Otherwise, we could evolve into more responsible beings.
:sarcasm:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:09 PM
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5. ha! what a concept?! responsibility for our actions?!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:29 PM
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7. Aaah.... I see... as a kind of God of the Gaps! Ha! ha! He was a card, wasn't he?
Edited on Tue May-13-08 06:34 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Silly old fool. Who ever heard of anything so daft? Pulling it all together, eh? "God does this", "God wouldn't do that". God of the Gaps, indeed!
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:47 AM
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12. lol
n/t
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:23 PM
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6. Reminds me of what Philip Roth said on "Fresh Air"
His comments provided a little bit of "fresh air."


Gross: "Is there any part of you that wishes you were a man of faith"

Roth: "I have no desire to be irrational."

Gross: "So there isn't any part of you that wished you could believe?"

Roth: "I have no taste for delusion."

And from Roth's new book, Everyman:

"Religion was a lie that he had recognized early in life, and he found all religions offensive, considered their superstitious folderol meaningless, childish, couldn't stand the complete unadultness -- the baby talk and the righteousness and the sheep, the avid believers. No hocus pocus about death and God or obsolete fantasies of heaven for him. There was only our bodies, born to live and die on terms decided by the bodies that had lived and died before us. If he could be said to have located a philosophical niche for himself, that was it -- he'd come upon it early and intuitively, and however elemental, that was the whole of it. Should he ever write an autobiography, he'd call it 'The Life and Death of the Male Body.'"

Link
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:36 PM
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8. Interesting n/t
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:18 PM
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9. Weird?
Tis was totally weird for me. The letter was written the day before I was born. Then yesterday I saw on the Today Show Robert Schulmann, former director of the Einstein Papers Project and co-editor of his collected papers. He said ol' 'Bert actually believed in a higher intelligence. Guess he never saw this letter.
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sagetea Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:55 PM
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10. That my friend ..
Is an awakening into knowing that the Media tells us only what they want too.
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Colin D Cops Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:07 PM
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11. Einstein was not being mean to Jews
Edited on Tue May-13-08 10:08 PM by Colin D Cops
Before right-wingers in Freepland start distorting Einstein's words about Jews, let's note that he is a Jew himself and that he made clear that Jews and everybody else are equal:

he said,

As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:34 AM
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13. Sometime
great minds believe foolish things.RIP
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