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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:42 PM
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Jerry Seinfeld: Dying Is Hard. Comedy Is Harder.
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 07:43 PM by babylonsister
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/24/opinion/24seinfeld.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Dying Is Hard. Comedy Is Harder.

By JERRY SEINFELD
Published: June 24, 2008



THE honest truth is, for a comedian, even death is just a premise to make jokes about. I know this because I was on the phone with George Carlin nine days ago and we were making some death jokes. We were talking about Tim Russert and Bo Diddley and George said: “I feel safe for a while. There will probably be a break before they come after the next one. I always like to fly on an airline right after they’ve had a crash. It improves your odds.”

I called him to compliment him on his most recent special on HBO. Seventy years old and he cranks out another hour of great new stuff. He was in a hotel room in Las Vegas getting ready for his show. He was a monster.

You could certainly say that George downright invented modern American stand-up comedy in many ways. Every comedian does a little George. I couldn’t even count the number of times I’ve been standing around with some comedians and someone talks about some idea for a joke and another comedian would say, “Carlin does it.” I’ve heard it my whole career: “Carlin does it,” “Carlin already did it,” “Carlin did it eight years ago.”

And he didn’t just “do” it. He worked over an idea like a diamond cutter with facets and angles and refractions of light. He made you sorry you ever thought you wanted to be a comedian. He was like a train hobo with a chicken bone. When he was done there was nothing left for anybody.

But his brilliance fathered dozens of great comedians. I personally never cared about “Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television,” or “FM & AM.” To me, everything he did just had this gleaming wonderful precision and originality.

I became obsessed with him in the ’60s. As a kid it seemed like the whole world was funny because of George Carlin. His performing voice, even laced with profanity, always sounded as if he were trying to amuse a child. It was like the naughtiest, most fun grown-up you ever met was reading you a bedtime story.

I know George didn’t believe in heaven or hell. Like death, they were just more comedy premises. And it just makes me even sadder to think that when I reach my own end, whatever tumbling cataclysmic vortex of existence I’m spinning through, in that moment I will still have to think, “Carlin already did it.”
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:46 PM
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1. That's a really sweet eulogy.
:toast:
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Antinius Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:49 PM
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2. It's great
My favorite Carlin bit was the baseball vs. football analogy.

That is an absolute classic.

At one point, Carlin had a sitcom and it sucked. Carlin as a sitcom character would fail, cause he (like Kramer) needs to be taken in small doses as a CHARACTER.

As a standup, he was simply brilliant.

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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 08:10 PM
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3. I don't remember Carlin having a sit-com! A few months ago, though, I caught him
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 08:11 PM by lulu in NC
in a couple of episodes of "That Girl." I was having a nostalgia binge, and rented "That Girl" from the video store. I thought this guy's voice sounded familiar, and in the credits, it was George Carlin, sans any facial hair. I didn't recognize him.

And yes, Jerry's tribute is great. It's very hard to lose Carlin.
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Antinius Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 08:17 PM
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4. Short lived sitcom
"The George Carlin Show was an American television sitcom that aired on Fox Broadcasting from January 1994 to July 1995<1>. It was created jointly by veteran TV producer Sam Simon and the show's namesake, comedian George Carlin.

The series centered around George O'Grady (Carlin), a taxi cab driver living in New York City. The show, for the most part, took place in The Moylan Bar, run by bartender Jack Donahue (Anthony Starke). The setting's real-life basis was the now-defunct Moylan Tavern, a young Carlin's neighborhood bar on Broadway between La Salle Street and Tiemann Place in the Morningside Heights neighborhood, and owned by the grandparents of TV Guide writer-editor Maitland McDonagh.<2>

As Carlin notes on his website: "January, 1994 - 'The George Carlin Show' premieres on Fox Television. Lasts 27 episodes. Lesson learned: always check mental health of creative partner beforehand. Loved the actors, loved the crew. Had a great time. Couldn't wait to get the f*** out of there. Canceled December, 1995".<3>"

from wikipedia



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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:15 AM
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6. Thanks for the info. I have to agree w/many that a sit-com wouldn't have
been Carlin's best milieu. He's better appreciated in full-out one-hour blasts of anger/truth/humor. How much
angry truth can be told in a sit-com?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:04 PM
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5. Beautiful. nt
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:17 AM
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7. I wondered if Carlin was a hero of Jerry Seinfelds
I see more of Carlin in him than in any other comedian.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:36 AM
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8. "facets and angles and refractions of light"
describes how Carlin crafted an idea and exposed all its implications.

Insightful eulogy by Seinfeld.
:toast:
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