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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:31 PM
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Another Washington Post Op Ed defending the pubs, "Phil Gramm was right"
Phil Gramm Is Right

By Amity Shlaes
Saturday, July 12, 2008; Page A13
"In serious consideration for ambassador to Belarus." That's the role John McCain joked that former senator Phil Gramm might have in a McCain administration. Gramm is McCain's most senior economic adviser, the one best qualified to lead the finance team of a McCain presidency. Now, however, Gramm faces political exile because he made the mistake of telling the truth.

What prompted the abrupt demotion? The short answer is what might be called Campaign Econ. Campaign Econ says the American economy is a certain way because Americans think it is. Campaign Econ competes with real economics and often wins -- with damage that extends way beyond, say, the political career of either Phil Gramm or John McCain.

Consider what happened this week. While speaking with the Washington Times, Gramm said that the country was not in a true recession but a "mental recession." He also said, "We have sort of become a nation of whiners" and "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline."

Gramm was right about the recession and stood by his recession comments on Thursday. A recession is two consecutive quarters in which the economy shrinks, and last quarter it grew. But no matter. Voters feel they are in a recession, and so they are, at least according to Campaign Econ.

Gramm's second sin was political. Calling voters whiners is to shame them. He later rephrased this comment, saying it was not voters he meant but politicians. That's because shaming voters is something American politicians simply don't do. Campaign Econ is unabashedly populist, and to seek to elicit shame is regarded as unpardonably elitist. Earlier this year, the McCain team was already terrified of seeming elitist. His advisers convinced themselves that the closeness of the primary contest was due to a lack of generosity. In January, when the McCain folks were desperate to win the Michigan primary, they ground their teeth down as Mitt Romney pandered to the auto industry. Romney's promise of unlimited support for carmakers won him that primary -- but not the nomination. Still, since then, McCain's advisers have sought to prove that he understands Campaign Econ; consider their proposal of a summer gas tax holiday.

more fishrap at the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/11/AR2008071102543.html

If there was any justice in the world ms. shlaes would find herself scavenging for stuff in a landfill to make a living, with a crow flying overhead saying "Whiner! Whiner!"
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:34 PM
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1. Let them keep it up. Every time they open their mouths they insult someone. nt
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:35 PM
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2. Shlaes is a Gramm shill
"Amity Shlaes is a senior fellow in economic history at the Council on Foreign Relations and the author of "The Forgotten Man." She recently spoke at a meeting hosted by the Mercatus Center and the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is chaired by Wendy Gramm, wife of Phil Gramm."
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:36 PM
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3. I think this calls for an emotie
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 07:37 PM by oldtime dfl_er
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:55 PM
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4. Last paragraphed seemed racist....
"The way to strengthen the economy right now is to elect leaders who dare to talk about problems in precise and even technical terms -- and then act on them. McCain has that capacity, but only if he can transcend Campaign Econ. "

McCain has that "Capacity" that Obama somehow lacks? I'd understand any other way of describing it but 'capacity' as if Obama who is famous for his oratory and went to Harvard and Columbia somehow doesn't have the 'capacity' to articulate "technical terms"?!?!?!?!? Washingpost apparently is lower than Fox News now.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:01 PM
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6. Yes, McCain, whos' never made a dime except off the taxpayers,
has the capability to fix the economy. All media should be blown up as soon as possible if we are to save this country.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 07:58 PM
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5. Shlaes is also responsible for
pile of deluded revisionist faux-analysis:

http://tinyurl.com/6s79bl

I heard an interview on NPR with her about this book while driving up the NJ turnpike and almost pulled into incoming traffic to escape her ignorant sanctimoniousness.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:09 PM
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7. Georgetown Cocktail Party drivel
nt
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 08:41 PM
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8. For what it's worth;
My DIL, a wonderful Midwestern banker living in FL. , who has been a quiet Repbub. and puts up with my left wing rants, has announced that she has quit drinking the kool aide. She firmly believes that we are on the brink of DEPRESSION and is working hard to cover their family's bases. Now for Mr. Gramm, as he has helped to lay the ground work for the destruction of the middle class.....does he think that we are going to go away quietly? Check the real numbers sir, and the recession has be here for some time.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:09 AM
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9. Amity Shlaes - LOL
Check out the credit:

Amity Shlaes is a senior fellow in economic history at the Council on Foreign Relations and the author of "The Forgotten Man." She recently spoke at a meeting hosted by the Mercatus Center and the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is chaired by Wendy Gramm, wife of Phil Gramm.

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Another Enron flunky who has been feeding at the troth and wonders why everyone is disgusted.

Last time I checked the comments section, it was a real BBQ.


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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:33 PM
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10. John Bolton Is the Best Friend the UN Ever Had: Amity Shlaes (2006)
<The title says everything you need to know. Really>
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a7Nl8RKTGWmk




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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:10 AM
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11. i don't know how, but the msm has been very successful in
spreading that whole "There is NO recession; it is all in public and media perception" meme...I can't say how many times I've seen variations of it...
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:20 AM
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12. Things really aren't all that bad FOR THE RICH!!!
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 08:20 AM by groovedaddy
This is what globalization was designed to do - make the rich richer and marginalize the poor and working classes. They've done such a good job though, the middle class is now on the chopping block.
STOP YOUR WHINING AND JUST BEND OVER!!!
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