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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:42 PM Original message |
Guardian UK: Why TV news in the US is utter rubbish |
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knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. we are fed oatmeal |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Uh, look again: that's not oatmeal, it's kitty litter |
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Cobalt-60 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Poop on the Kitty Litter |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Guardian is very good too. |
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sourmilk (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. So, if it's kitty litter rather than oatmeal... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. I disagree for one thing oatmeal is nutritious, and two we're being fed straight up |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Even worse are the educators in public systems keeping all nice-nice |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. I suspect, many have become |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Exactly. It's just that about 40 years of "fighting the good fight" |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. Can you clarify that statement a little, please? |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. GREAT GREAT piece |
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Bob Dobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. U(SA) can't handle the truth! |
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nancyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. Everyone needs to read the entire piece. |
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Misskittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Spot on. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. But he doesn't really get to WHY, does he? No analysis of interest groups or of the |
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dgauss (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. The frustrating thing is that your average RW radio listener |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Two reasons for that |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. Mushrooms think mushrooms. |
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Patriot Abroad (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Appropriate to bring up mushrooms |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Out country has become an embarrassment in so many ways, |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. I was in the midwest last week |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. What a sad state of affairs our news |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. I was just telling my sister last week |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. My favorite, too |
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reddconsole (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Ya Gotta Get Up Early! |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. My TV is set as my alarm clock and automatically |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
74. Here in Australia |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. Hey, Kerry O'Brien's a redhead! |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. *snort* |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. k/r |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
14. Journal of Criminal Justice and Popular Culture |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Thanks! nt |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 03:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. You're welcome. Good stuff there. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
19. What a Damning Indictment of the US Media |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
20. Even the BBC is suspect. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I have to assume |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Are you watching BBC24? |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Watch Link TV |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Ah, good stuff |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Here go. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Thankies! n/t |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
85. Cable TV viewers in the US are watching BBC America |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
75. You broke the rules -- no criticizing of Europe allowed ;-) |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Sorry, but I've consumed lots of media in the US, Europe and Canada..... |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Sorry, but if you measure quality by the degree of US critical information |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Umm, it's not just about "US Critical" information..... |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Umm, that simply is not the case |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that point. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Indeed n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. TV is rubbish. TV News is just what you get when you do News on TV. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
23. I only wish I could rec this more than once! Thanks, marmar, for posting. nt |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
25. By Rupert, I think he's got it! n/t |
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CubicleGuy (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
28. This is what happens when the news division has to generate revenue |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. Money trumps news. |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
32. they got that right |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
33. Gosh. I guess we have known this for years, but it is good to have it confirmed. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
35. Which is precisely why I have Satellite radio and listen to BBC World Service |
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iamahaingttta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
36. Rupert Murdoch saw the Movie "Network"... |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. This article is as funny as it is tragic |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
38. I have talked with the political editor of the Guardian about this, and guess what? |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Like the comment by Mrs. Bhutto when she said she feared the people that killed Bin Laden |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. Yes, but as long as Americans don't demand that news and media |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. I think Americans do complain and have complained --- meaningless .... |
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mimitabby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
41. does anybody actually watch TV news anymore? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I no longer watch it either |
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Patriot Abroad (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. There's still news on TV? How do you click on it to get to what you want to read? /nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. Right . . . and has been going on for decades . . . so why is anyone watching????? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. ...We really need to be ridiculing them more --- we've been TOO kind. . . !!! |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. Wow.. It's kind of sad when we are made fun of the british for having trash... |
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Patriot Abroad (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
66. They may have invented the tabloid, but . . . |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic.... |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
48. porn stars reading me the news.. |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
49. K&R |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. Pravda on the Potomac nt |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
54. It's about bloody time someone mentioned the naked emperor |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
55. Why be such a Gloomy Gus? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
81. I don't know whether to |
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agincourt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
58. The case is lock solid as we see tonight. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. So true |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
59. US news media = soy burger |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
60. this may be one of the things in this |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
61. The worst is when they praise themselves. They love their little bubble |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
62. I am not against tabloid journalism |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
64. where is RADIO FREE ENGLAND when we need them |
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Patriot Abroad (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. Sheeple! |
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Esra Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
72. It is really pathetic that the |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
77. yes...that's why many of us have turned it off...but sadly we still try to "peek" |
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nachoproblem (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-08-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
78. this must be what they want on some level... |
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eshfemme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
79. I'd agree wholeheartedly with this op-ed if it weren't for the little sliver of anti-Americanism |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I read the column over several times, however I can't seem to find any anti-Americanism in it, |
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eshfemme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Maybe I am just being overly sensitive then. I do wish there was a way to create an alternative to |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
84. "The health of any democratic society is predicated upon two factors: |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-09-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
86. Did y'all see Jon Stewart challenge David Gregory about cable news output? |
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