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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:10 PM
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Warnings to Russia from Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham
By Glenn Greenwald

John McCain's two most loyal supporters and most influential foreign policy advisers, Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, have an Op-Ed in The Wall St. Journal today proclaiming that "Russia's invasion of Georgia represents the most serious challenge to this political order since Slobodan Milosevic unleashed the demons of ethnic nationalism in the Balkans." Just as their neoconservative comrade, Fred Hiatt, does in today's Washington Post, Lieberman and Graham demand that the U.S. expend vast resources and assert itself both militarily and politically in order to thwart the New Russian Menace ("This means reinvigorating NATO as a military alliance, not just a political one . . . The credibility of Article Five of the NATO Charter -- that an attack against one really can and will be treated as an attack against all -- needs to be bolstered. . . .The Georgian military should be given the antiaircraft and antiarmor systems necessary to deter any renewed Russian aggression").

The painful absurdity of hard-core warmongers who supported the invasion of Iraq (and, in Lieberman's case, advocating we do the same to Iran and Syria) parading around as defenders of the "political order" is too self-evident, and by now too common, to merit much comment. But this warning from the neoconservative duo about the folly of imperialistic Russian policies is really a sight to behold:

In the long run, a Russia that tries to define its greatness in terms of spheres of influence, client states and forced fealty to Moscow will fail -- impoverishing its citizens in the process. The question is only how long until Russia's leaders rediscover this lesson from their own history.

To recap: the U.S. is going to impede Russian aggression, re-build and protect Georgia, revitalize the military strength of NATO, and restore peace and order to Europe. We're going to stare down the Hitlers of Iran (also in the Post today, Lieberman comrade -- the super-tough-guy and Iran obsessive Micheal Rubin -- lashes out at Joe Biden for "blinking on Iran" and being "Tehran's favorite senator"). We're going to re-build, occupy and safeguard Iraq for decades if necessary. We will single-handedly promote Israel's interests and view each of its enemies and its wars as our own. We're also going to get much tougher on China, just like Russia:

A John McCain presidency would take to a more forceful approach to Russia and China, according to senior foreign policy advisers to the Republican candidate. . . .

Robert Kagan, who wrote much of the speech delivered in Los Angeles, told the Daily Telegraph: "Russia will loom large for both Europe and the US, and John McCain has been ahead of the curve and has seen this coming down the road. . . .While continuing a "multi-faceted approach" to Beijing, Boot said the US needs "to be forthright on their human rights abuses and not shrink from condemning what they are doing in Tibet for example, or from trying to help Chinese dissidents to stay out of jail".


And we're going to do all that while cutting taxes further. But remember: it's Russia, bulging with cash from oil exports, that better realize -- for their own good -- that its efforts "to define its greatness in terms of spheres of influence, client states and forced fealty to Moscow will fail -- impoverishing its citizens in the process."

MORE...

SALON: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/26/russia/
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:15 PM
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1. And don't forget Cindy McCain who today attacked Russia while visiting refugees. n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:17 PM
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2. Oh brother... such a dreadful prospect.
We MUST elect Barack Obama President.

Beyond any shred of doubt!!!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:22 PM
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3. What a fine mess those two will
get us into.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:26 PM
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4. Last week Rush called Graham a "sniveling little senator"
That letter has got to have Russia shaking in it's boots since it comes from a turncoat and a "sniveling little senator".
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antisoros Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:35 PM
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5. And "Operation Immediate Response 2008?"
Great humanitarians. Between July 15-31, US troops trained Georgian troops in the blitzkreig war that they attempted on
Aug. 7, with US advisors present to watch civilian neighborhoods attacked in the followup to "IR2008": "Clean Fields."
They won't let you on their website, without a Bushie sponsor.

https://immediateresponse.pims.org/

Too bad: thousands of related videos and pictures have been downloaded from Regiment websites. Too bad for Bush-Cheney-
McCain.

They don't want to explain how 500 buildings were destroyed in the midnight attack, which commenced while Putin,
Bush and the Chinese leader were watching the Olympic ceremonies.
http://ossetians.com/eng/news.php?newsid=481&f=36&PHPSESSID=5fba7887dd5ddb384b43a12b044f1b96

Or what about the satellite images that prove that civilians were targeted:
http://www.alertnet.org/thefacts/satelliteimages/UNOSAT/324545345fcd9edf949c6655c8d0d2db.htm

Then there is the right wing agenda and its cover story:
http://www.iwpr.net/?p=crs&s=f&o=346346&apc_state=henh

US in Georgia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyqQZWXtGKk

Tskhivali murderers in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WXw421fLUY&feature=related

Georgians in Iraq whoring for Bush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaeSEvv-AKM&feature=related
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:36 PM
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6.  Today I called Lieberman's office to hassle them over this and the Jim Leach speech.
Jim Leach.. who spoke last night in Denver. a Republican who resents being lied to by the neoncon's unlike old Joe. a needed response to Joe's warmongering is the piece below.. McCain.. expereince we don't need if we want to live in a peaceful world.
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Who Is Responsible for U.S. Russia Policy?

A convincing account of the origin and development of the war between Russia and Georgia has now been provided by The New York Times, clarifying what it charitably describes as the “miscalculation, missed signals, and overreaching” responsible for the war.

The one thing it does not clarify is who is ultimately responsible for an American policy toward Russia that since the collapse of the Soviet Union has been aggressive, militarily overbearing and threatening to the integrity of Russia, to absolutely no useful purpose. The conventional Western comment says the NATO governments have underestimated “Russia’s determination to dominate its traditional sphere of influence.”

This is wrong. Russia has been amazingly tolerant of successful Western efforts to annex its “traditional sphere of influence,” if that term means the Warsaw Pact, which until 1991 was the Communist counterpart to NATO, lending troops to enforce the so-called Brezhnev Doctrine, which held that membership in the Warsaw Pact and in the “Socialist bloc” was irreversible.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080820_who_is_responsible_for_us_russian_policy/
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 08:12 PM
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7. "Less jobs, More wars"
The new McCain slogan.
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