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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:32 AM
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The GOP Has Finally Imploded - E.J. Dionne, The New Republic


"Whose Side Are You On, Comrade"


by E.J. Dionne, Jr.
Why conservatives have finally lost their sense of solidarity and purpose.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=00c06f55-a5e0-48fb-a5e1-c3978ba94600

Post Date October 24, 2008

WASHINGTON--Conservatives are at each other's throats, and here's what's revealing about how divided they are: The critics of John McCain and the critics of Sarah Palin represent entirely different camps.

snip: "For years, many of the elite conservatives were happy to harvest the votes of devout Christians and gun owners by waging a phony class war against "liberal elitists" and "leftist intellectuals." Suddenly, the conservative writers are discovering that the very anti-intellectualism their side courted and encouraged has begun to consume their movement.

The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity--and Sarah Palin. Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.

And then there is George W. Bush. Conservatives once hailed him for creating an enduring majority on behalf of their cause. Now, they cast him as the goat in their story of decline.

The conservative critique of Bush is a familiar rant against his advocacy of big government and huge deficits--now supplemented by a horror over his embrace of actual socialism with the partial nationalization of big banks. And, yes, a fair number of conservatives were never wild about the adventure in Iraq.

Things are so bad that the internecine warriors on the right have begun copying the rhetoric of the old left. In a Washington Times column this week upbraiding dissidents such as Brooks and Noonan, Tony Blankley, the conservative writer and activist, fell back on an old left slogan, asking them: "Whose side are you on, comrade?"

This is a revelatory question. It arises when a movement has lost its sense of solidarity and purpose, when the "sides" are no longer clear. There is no unified "right" or "center-right," which is why we are no longer a conservative country, if we ever were.

Conservatism has finally crashed on problems for which its doctrines offered no solutions (the economic crisis foremost among them, thus Bush's apostasy) and on its refusal to acknowledge that the "real America" is more diverse, pragmatic and culturally moderate than the place described in Palin's speeches or imagined by the right-wing talk show hosts.

Conservatives came to believe that if they repeated phrases such as "Joe the Plumber" often enough, they could persuade working-class voters that policies tilted heavily in favor of the very privileged were actually designed with Joe in mind.

It isn't working anymore. No wonder conservatives are turning on each other so ferociously.


link to full article:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=00c06f55-a5e0-48fb-a5e1-c3978ba94600

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:55 AM
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1. TNR lost me as a reader several years ago.
frankly, reading a 150 page review bored the shit out of me. And the editors in charge really had a large spikey, sap filled, pine cone up their ass. Bad editorial decisions, not very interesting subjects, and at times, surprisingly poor writing.

At least this article is worth reading. But not worth subscribing.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 06:17 AM
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2. I completely agree. I had come to despise TNR long ago. But still this is still a very good article
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:22 PM
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11. I unsubscribed MANY moons ago,
as the worm was turning, I think!

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 06:53 AM
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3. Big K & R !!!
:kick:
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:14 AM
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4. manifestoes?
Is that a word?
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 03:03 AM
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13. Commie toe socks.
In soviet russia, commie toe socks wear you!
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:34 AM
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5. Imploded? Sadly, not quite yet
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 07:39 AM by RedLetterRev
It's a dying, yet still dangerous beast, with thrashing tentacles of its own creation and encouragement still very much alive. We've seen the ugly underbelly exposed lately, in the form of racists/supremacists, über-rich corporatists still bailing with obscene compensations from mega-corporations they've sucked dry across the backs of labor, and McKook and Phalin still raising the spectre of terror if they're not handed the crown on a velvet pillow, ad nauseam. The megachurches with their fringey-but-wildly-profitable, "Pinky and the Brain" version of Christianity that's miles-long on Leviticus and atom bombs and all-but devoid of Gospel are still pumping the "vote GOP or burn in hell" message. One must note that every one of them is willing to send someone else's loved one to die for their causes, but wholly unwilling to do more for their own causes than to stick a ribbon magnet on their gas-guzzlers and to berate loudly everyone who isn't them.

Little has changed.

Yet.

Just because the party of the reich is in disarray doesn't mean that those who put it to power in the first place still aren't as strong as they ever were. Be very wary.

Keep working, keep striving, keep pushing until the nastiness that is the GOP is quite thoroughly and permanently dead and gone.

Edit: Preview spelling in haste, post at leisure...
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:05 AM
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6. The neocon have lost control of their minions
The Neocon's put together a coalition of divergent cultural groups to basically steal elections. They never once intended to do anything they promised leading up to races. Now that the cover is off what you see are these groups vying for dominance over a party that has not existed since Eisenhower.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:19 AM
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7. Don't the middle & working class want the rich to be richer? Why do they hate their country? n.t
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:30 PM
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8. why would you want me to waste my beautiful mind on that?
In a shell of nut, herein lies the entire attitude of Us v. dem. With dem standing for Democrats, Them, Dumbocrats, moderates, and middle classers.
Bawbwa Bwush sure made a lot of friends with that one.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:26 PM
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9. The neo-cons "killed" the Republican party and general conservatism.
Their policies turned a federal surplus into a massive deficit, allowed many industries and businesses to run rampant without fear of reprisal, got us into an unnecessary war that makes us more despised than at any point in our history, caused the price of oil to jump 300% in a few years, wrecked the economy, and further divided the country culturally.

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:21 PM
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10. Nice article. America never was a conservative country.
For as long as I have been watching politics (28 years), Americans have regularly agreed with the Democratic Party on most policy issues ... but lots of people (mainly white men) voted for Republicans regardless of their positions on the issues. Yes, Republicans got elected (and selected), but that never made us a conservative country.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:23 PM
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12. A long-term process missed by many in rose-colored glasses:
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 11:27 PM by elleng
'Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.'

I commented there.
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