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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:48 PM
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Mark Benjamin: Obama's plans for probing Bush torture

Obama's plans for probing Bush torture

President Bush could pardon officials involved in brutal interrogations -- but he may also face a sweeping investigation under the new president.

By Mark Benjamin


Nov. 13, 2008 | WASHINGTON -- With growing talk in Washington that President Bush may be considering an unprecedented "blanket pardon" for people involved in his administration's brutal interrogation policies, advisors to Barack Obama are pressing ahead with plans for a nonpartisan commission to investigate alleged abuses under Bush.

The Obama plan, first revealed by Salon in August, would emphasize fact-finding investigation over prosecution. It is gaining currency in Washington as Obama advisors begin to coordinate with Democrats in Congress on the proposal. The plan would not rule out future prosecutions, but would delay a decision on that matter until all essential facts can be unearthed. Between the time necessary for the investigative process and the daunting array of policy problems Obama will face upon taking office, any decision on prosecutions probably would not come until a second Obama presidential term, should there be one.

The proposed commission -- similar in thrust to a Democratic investigation proposal first uncovered by Salon in July -- would examine a broad scope of activities, including detention, torture and extraordinary rendition, the practice of snatching suspected terrorists off the street and whisking them off to a third country for abusive interrogations. The commission might also pry into the claims by the White House -- widely rejected by experienced interrogators -- that abusive interrogations are an effective and necessary intelligence tool.

A common view among those involved with the talks is that any early effort to prosecute Bush administration officials would likely devolve quickly into ugly and fruitless partisan warfare. Second is that even if Obama decided he had the appetite for it, prosecutions in this arena are problematic at best: A series of memos from the Bush Justice Department approved the harsh tactics, and Congress changed the War Crimes Act in 2006, making prosecutions of individuals involved in interrogations more difficult.

Instead, a commission empowered by Congress would have the authority to compel witnesses to testify and even to grant immunity in exchange for information. Should a particularly ugly picture emerge, the option of prosecutions would still theoretically be on the table later, however unlikely.

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/11/13/torture_commission/
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:50 PM
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1. DO IT. DO IT. DO IT.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:51 PM
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2. At a minimum, I want every vile thing Cowboy Caligula did documented;
it looks like we'll at least get that.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:53 PM
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3. Truth And Reconciliation Commission
Like they did in South Africa: It would be brilliant. Confess and you're off the hook. Don't confess, and you can be prosecuted.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:56 PM
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4. I wonder if any pardons would go out the window when Bush is found to be a criminal...
I would think. I hope.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 09:50 PM
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 10:47 PM
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6. Recommended. n/t
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:33 PM
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7. Disgusting that criminals can pervert our government and Constitution
and get away without punishment of any kind. Bill Clinton was a great president and a brilliant mind, appreciated by the world, but he suffered the ignominious treatment of the PUGS, yet real criminals get off scot free because of their audacity and GOPerism. The dems set themselves up time and again for failure by such laxity.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:37 PM
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8. And fact-finding w/o prosecution would prove what?
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 11:39 PM by clear eye
A detailed account of exactly what an administration can get away with?
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