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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:13 AM
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Obama’s Biggest Challenge
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/opinion/10herbert.html

Another month, another half-million Americans out of work. The ranks of the unemployed have now stretched beyond 11 million, and millions more are underemployed — working part time, for example, because they can’t find full-time jobs.

As bad as this sounds, the reality confronting working men and women is actually significantly worse. Some 2.6 million jobs have been lost since December 2007, and as the Economic Policy Institute tells us:

“Just to keep up with the ever-expanding labor force, the economy would have needed to create 1.5 million jobs over the last 12 months. This means that the 2.6 million jobs lost leaves us over 4 million jobs short of what the economy required to provide employment for the American work force.”

We’re in employment quicksand. The official unemployment rate (a notoriously rosy statistic) is 7.2 percent. But more than one in every eight workers in America is jobless or underemployed. That’s 21 million people. And it’s not even counting the so-called discouraged workers, who have given up looking for a job.

More than a million jobs were lost in November and December, and millions more are projected to vanish this year. When the November job losses were announced, David Leonhardt wrote in The Times’s blog, Economix:

“The share of all men ages 16 and over who are working is now at its lowest level since the government began keeping statistics in the 1940s. The share of women with jobs has fallen almost two percentage points from the peak it reached in 2000. At no other point in the past 50 years has the share of employed women fallen so much from its peak.”

This is an emergency. There is one overriding mission for the incoming Obama administration when it comes to dealing with the economy, and that’s putting Americans back to work. Forget the G.O.P.’s mania for tax cuts. Forget, for the time being (but not forever), the ballooning budget deficits. Forget the feel-good but doomed-to-fail effort to play nice-nice with the rabid partisans of the right who were the ones most responsible for ruining the economy in the first place.

Put the people back to work!

To do that, Democrats will have to overcome their natural timidity. They will have to fend off the Republican opposition in Congress and set in motion an enormous surge of public spending aimed at creating jobs, jobs, jobs.

Each new surge of job losses is an additional violent assault on the already profoundly damaged economy. Idle workers do not pay taxes and that ratchets up budget deficits at the federal, state and local levels. They draw down unemployment benefits and further strain the Medicaid rolls. In many cases, they are forced to turn to food stamps for their families’ daily bread. And, of course, they stop purchasing cars and homes, goods and services.

The economy will not be saved by putting a pitiful $500 into the hands of the average taxpayer. And it won’t be saved by gift-wrapped concessions to the G.O.P. in the form of business tax cuts that the president-elect is said to be considering.

With credit tight, savings depleted, the stock market in the tank and home prices in a state of collapse, the only way to get real money into the hands of ordinary Americans (and thus back into the economy) is through employment. The way to truly stimulate the economy and save the jobs of anxiety-ridden workers who are still employed is to get the unemployed back to work as soon as possible.

And the way to create jobs is through infrastructure investments (building and repairing roads, bridges, tunnels and water and sewer systems); and by investing in 21st-century clean energy initiatives, in public transportation systems, and in school construction; and by providing access to health care for the millions who don’t have it.

In other words, by investing in the people and the enormous productive capacity of the United States.

Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa was blunt this week after he and other Senate Democrats met with Obama aides to discuss the president-elect’s stimulus package. “There is only one thing we have got to do in the stimulus, and that is how can we create jobs,” he said.

Referring to Mr. Obama’s national economic adviser, Lawrence Summers, Mr. Harkin added: “I am a little concerned by the way that Mr. Summers and others are going at this in that, to me, it still looks like a little more of this trickle down. If we just put it in at the top, it’s going to trickle down.”

Been there. Done that. Didn’t work.

The madness of trickle down and its corollaries ruined the economy and millions of Americans with it. President-elect Obama ran to the mantra of change. One hopes he is not too timid to deliver.


I, too, am worried that there is too much emphasis on tax cuts and ill-thought out supply-side economic programs being used in his stimulus package. The hiring of employees tax credit businesses are supposed to get is a complete joke: if the demand isn't there, no business in their right mind will hire a worker at 40k/year (lets say) to produce more of their product/service just to get a $4,000 one-time tax credit.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:30 AM
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1. Whaa. For starters.we are all worried. Thanks for your support.
It's been posted, but everyone should know.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:37 AM
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2. Just because I support him doesn't mean I agree with him
I know exactly who I voted for and what his ideology was. I accept that I am to the left of his thinking. I just wish he wouldn't listen to Mr. Summers or Mr. Rubin on economic advice and start listening to Mr. Krugman or Mr. Stiglitz :)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:38 AM
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3. In terms of the employee credit to the business.....
Maybe you haven't really thought about it, but it is the difference between an employer deciding to hire a permanent employee as opposed to picking up the phone and bringing in two temporary part time workers. It's the difference between scheduling some overtime for some employees who don't need it as badly as the person in the wings waiting to be hired.

The tax credit is $3,000 for each of the first two years, and what it does it cancels out the employer payroll tax portion that an employer has to pay for each employee up to $50,000 per year of the employee's income.


New American Jobs Tax Credit: Obama and Biden will provide a new temporary tax credit to companies that add jobs here in the United States. During 2009 and 2010, existing businesses will receive a $3,000 refundable tax credit for each additional full-time employee hired. For example, if a company that currently has 10 U.S. employees increases its domestic full time employment to 20 employees, this company would get a $30,000 tax credit -- enough to offset the entire added payroll tax costs to the company for the first $50,000 of income for the new employees. The tax credit will benefit all companies creating net new jobs, even those struggling to make a profit.
http://change.gov/agenda/economy_agenda/
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:42 AM
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4. I have thought about it, and your statement doesn't address supply and demand
Company A will only hire more workers is their product is in demand excess of what they can profitably deliver. If the demand for their good/service is not there, they aren't going to add to their overhead by hiring a full-time worker. It just won't happen. This would be a good measure in an expanding economy, which we won't have for 2+ years (at the least).
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:59 AM
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5. The economy will be stimulated by more that this particular credit.....
and as the economy improves, the examples I noted are exactly what employers will have to think about.

If they don't hire, they don't get the credit, and the funds for the credit remains untouched. I'm not sure where the downside is.

Also know that the economy will improve, and having one's ducks lined in a row is smart thinking.

There will be apart from other stimulus action, Tax Cuts to middle and lower wage earners, in the form of lower withheld tax from employees paychecks which would provide additional income that can be counted on in their budget each and every paycheck (the tax cuts calculates out at Approximately $20 dollars per paycheck or a 50 cent per hour pay increase for those working fulltime). It is not enough extra money to save (which is why the Bush Tax rebates didn't work; it was paid in a lump sum), but it is enough to put back into the economy. Folks spend more, when they feel like they will reliably have a bit more coming in. It's extra money to go to the movies, buy a dinner, pay a cell phone bill, etc.....
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:04 AM
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6. As I said, it will take years for this particular part of the plan to work
Which is why it shouldn't be getting much air-time as a major piece of his stimulus plan. A stimulus plan should be more centered around job creation investment. That will for sure lead to growth, the business tax credit to hire full time workers won't even be tapped for years to come. Perhaps I am being wonkish looking at just one part of the plan, but I agree with most of it except this and one or two other things I have read on the subject.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:34 AM
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7. 2.5 Million Americans have lost their jobs.
I believe that this part of the stimulus package works hand in hand with the others. Folks will be hired for Infrastruture work, etc..... and those companies hiring will hire more than less workers if this credit is available.

The employee hire credit may not be a good stand alone stimulus, but combined with the other parts of the stimuli possible plan, it make perfect sense.
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