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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:23 AM
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Meghan McCain on "Why Republicans Don't Get the Internet" (with great comments!)
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 08:25 AM by mwb970
Why Republicans Don't Get the Internet
(The Daily Beast, February 19, 2009)

When I first suggested launching a blog chronicling my experience on my father's campaign for president, I was met with confusion and resistance. A few people even asked me what's a blog. Throughout the campaign, I did everything possible to showcase the fun and interesting parts of the campaign. I posted pictures. I wrote posts. I even included a playlist of my favorite songs. But often, I got the sense that people on the campaign thought I was wasting my time.

The Republican party isn't exactly Internet savvy. That's no secret. This has been a source of personal frustration for me for a very long time. Unless the GOP evolves as the party that can successfully utilize the Web, we'll continue to lose influence. I think nothing confirms this fact to be more true than this recent election. I don’t claim to be an expert on mobilizing voters, but a significant number of the readers on mccainblogette.com, my blog, were between the ages of 18 and 30, a key demographic that either party would want. Many of the established Republican strategists told me that young people would not visit my web site. I used to categorize many of the advisors in my father's campaign into one of two groups: those that "respected" the Internet and those who didn't. It was a running line between me and my friends who worked on my site.

I remember explaining this to former Secretary of the Navy John Lehman (who was also an advisor to my father), and having him share his concerns about my father's campaign effectively using the Internet. It's often suggested that because the GOP was in power the past eight years, it became lazy and content with its success. So the party did not see the need to utilize the web as the Democrats did.

I wanted to ask some of the people who have been doing online work for the Republican party if they could somehow explain — or even admit — what has gone so wrong. But when I started calling around asking for people to comment, I discovered most did not want to talk to me. Instead, they told me that not having enough money was a huge factor in our loss — not our misuse of the Internet. Others were just plain angry, blaming the liberal media, and not the party's shortcomings online. Of course, there is truth in some of this. But denial only amplifies the stereotypes about Republicans being disconnected.

(More at link)

Meghan's article is interesting and has some actual insights, although the McCain campaign staffers who shunned the playlist of her "favorite songs" were probably right to do so. :eyes:

More interesting than the article itself are the comments that follow, most of which kindly attempt to set Meghan straight on what is really wrong with the republican party! It's worth a read.

A sample comment, from mordoormat:

The problem with the Republicans is that they don't get what the problem is.

It must be advertising and technology because people for some reason are not drawn to the party of racist fear-mongering, unlimited defense spending (for contractors and not the troops), religious fanatacism, neglect of the infrastructure, coddling of the obscenely rich. Anti-science, anti-freedom (unless you are rich or a corporation) anti-environment, pro-big oil, pro-torture and anti-middle and working class.

Your father was not a victim of the "liberal media" as you seem to think he was, he chose to embrace an immoral philosophy which he used to oppose and many people who used to respect him saw through the hypocrisy. It is pretty hard to watch someone who was a staunch opponent of torture suddenly embrace it with his other Republican opponents just so he can become president.

He sold out and leaned far right and embraced George Bush to get the nomination and, in doing so, lost the respect of a lot of objective, independent people. Give credit where credit is due, the Republicans earned their defeat through flawed philosophy, not flawed technology.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:46 AM
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1. Brilliant response
Mordoormat's interpretation of why the Republicans failed is perfect. Thanks for digging this up.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:28 AM
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18. It sure was perfect. I would have stopped at 'McCain sold out'
which he did over and over again.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:46 AM
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2. It must be advertising and technology
Because they have always been able to ADVERTISE their problems away!
Republicans don't have ideology problems, they only have PR problems. Everything is packaging/re branding. Then business as usual once elected. FINALLY the sheeple are starting to see through it! Republics have never delivered on their promises, they just advertise it away, move on to the next mantra. The bumper sticker party, they spend more time thinking up slogans than they do working on real issues!
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:49 AM
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4. Unfortunately, they do work on real issues when they get the chance.
And when they get the chance, they never fail to find new, creative ways to enmiserate (if that's a word) the non-plutocrat people of the U.S. and the world.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 01:57 PM
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13. The word you want is "immiserate." nt
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:40 PM
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16. Thanks for the tip.
Good word, useful in many situations where Republicans are involved.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:49 AM
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3. I like this one. It nails it..
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 08:52 AM by Kahuna
Southside
Hey Meghan... Don't think me a complete jerk- I read your blog religiously during the campaign as part of my news intake, and I really liked it. You did indeed manage to put a human face on things. Something your post fails to address however-

Part of the reason why the Republicans SUCK at the internet is that when you get information to the people in a timely fashion, they see the real situation, and this is something Republicans in their current incarnation can't hope to win at. For every lie, deliberate misstatement, or downright hypocritical utterance from someone on your dads campaign, there was the immediate ability to call it out. That is the power of the internet... and that is why the Republicans suck at it. It calls them out.

The Democrats are bumbling fools when it comes to messaging. The fact that they managed to win the online war so thoroughly does indicate that the Republicans suck at the internet. However, its not a technology gap, its an idea gap... and until the Republicans learn to see the modern world for what it is, they will continue to "suck."

on edit, some more gems:


wiscogal
Perhaps having the gop nominee for pres completely clueless about how to even get on the internet wasn't a red flag to you Meghan?? For god sakes he's a US Senator and rich to boot but just too damn lazy to change with the world around him but yet we were suppose to elect this guy.
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reckless
"I even included a playlist of my favorite songs. But often, I got the sense that people on the campaign thought I was wasting my time."

Does the first sentence not explain the second?
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tavallai
Technology and the internet are "future" technologies, for the "forward-looking." The latter a term not associated with the GOP since, oh, the 1860's.
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jas4850
Actually, Meghan, the real issue about why young people don't join the Republican party is what they see of it in the media: lots of angry, old, white, ignorant, poorly educated people. The same people who screamed, "Terrorist! Kill him!" at your dad's rallies and would just spout Fox News lies about "palling around with terrorists" or say stuff on camera about Obama being a Muslim or him not being foreign or not "like us." Just take a look at the Republican National Convention (in comparison to the Democratic Convention) which was a lot of white, rural, southern, bible-beating, old people. The Democratic party is becoming younger, more diverse, better educated, and more urban with each year. The Republican party is committing demographic
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:20 AM
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11. The first response does nail it.
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 11:20 AM by OnyxCollie
If you have an opportunity, see Boogieman: The Lee Atwater Story. It's a great movie, and clearly shows what the repub's have been doing to win elections for thirty years- get a charismatic person to put out a bullshit message that smears your opponent and have it repeated incessantly by the media. In the time of the Internets, that strategy is doomed to go the way of the dinosaurs.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 09:06 AM
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5. I had a woman ask me this week what a blog was
I know she is a right wing fundamentalist by past experience.

We just left a meeting where the manager asked if any of us had participated in the department blog. On the way out she asked me what a blog was.

I was somewhat stunned that she didn't know. After all she is a self described documentation expert, telling everyone how they should be formating and writing reports and presentations as well as web sites. Yet she didn't know what a blog was. :shrug:

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 09:31 AM
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6. Righties see surfaces, but not depths.
Your colleague knows about how websites should look but not what they actually are. Other wingnuts worship the flag to the point of idolatry yet seem completely unconcerned about the nation that the flag represents. They think that the lapel pin someone wears shows whether they are patriotic, not what's in their heart.

Once you notice this pattern, you see examples everywhere. Conservative "thought", at least among the rank and file, tends to be simple-minded and black-and-white. And always, always focused only on the surface, never the depth.
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:16 AM
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8. what drives me crazy is how people confuse online commenting (posting a comment to a news article)
for example, with blogging: "Have you checked out the blogs to that article in the paper the other day?" when what they're actually referring to are the posted comments to the article. Makes me freaking crazy - and everyone I know calls them blogs.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:23 AM
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9. Whenever I'm in situation where everyone is talking about a topic unfamiliar to me
(and for whatever reason feel it would not be a good idea to ask), I immediately go to THE INTERNET and look it up. Some people just don't seem to get what an amazing resource the internet is, and it makes them look even more foolish.

She probably got told by someone in her church (forwarding some stupid email where no one knows how to take all the cc's off so it takes 5 minutes of scrolling to get to the message), that the internet is evil and blogs are the devil's work.

:eyes:
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:06 AM
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7. Very interesting thread - thanks mwb970! n/t
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:35 AM
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10. The narrative that they don't understand technology is interesting
I do web hosting and a client is the editor for some conservative blogs (hosted elsewhere). Individually, Scott is a very savvy guy with strong geek skills. We got to talking the other day and he spoke of how the GOP is strategizing around 2010/12. He's going to abandone some other work efforts in order to provide consiulting services to GOP candidates. He's concerned that they will look back to how Obama won in 2008 and model their efforts after that, when the Dems will be looking forward to employ new strategies. He hopes to help them look forward instead of back. Should be interesting to see what happens.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:31 PM
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12. The GOP only knows how to work from the top down
Trickle-down economics -- and trickle-down technology.

It's not that they don't have some good tech people. They were ahead of the Democrats for years when it came to pioneering the use of computerized mailing lists, microtargeted get-out-the-vote efforts, and stuff like that.

But they never "got" the netroots -- and they're probably incapable of doing so. They know how to tell their loyal followers what to think. But they have no skill at democracy.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 02:35 PM
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14. McCain used to be pro-choice, anti-war, anti-torture, anti-big-government,
anti-establishment, and anti-deficit. If it weren't for the internet, Big Media would have been able to hide the fact that he flip-flopped on ALL of these issues, like a sniveling, pandering coward. Meanwhile, he's still a mean, foul-mouthed adulterer like he's always been.

I don't feel like getting a registration to respond to that piglet's ravings.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 05:26 AM
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17. Doctor_J is not a gracious person and his namecalling embarrasses me.
I was going to add to your comment but you blew it with your namecalling.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 05:55 PM
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15. The Internet Is Science-based. Ooooh, Scary!
All those electrons could leak on the floor and electrocute a Freeper! After all, the atomic bomb is science, too. And Evolution.
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