Push to Legalize polygamy in utah?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7953270.stm

is this really going on?
I mean I know Polygamy is going on, but to actually main stream it?

I'm not completely against polygamy, it has recently become apparent that it is possible to love completely more than one person at a time, and to want to cover them in the legal aegis of marriage.

But I always figured it was just one of those things you can never do anything about.

It's also one of those things I would N O T recommend for even the above average person.

Thing is, I think that some of these things hold up partially because the idea of love is a little fleeting... I dunno.

All I know is that most compounds are not a terribly healthy environment to raise girls or even boys in, and end up being rather sexist.

not all polyamory is the stuff of polygamist compounds. Plenty of people have more than one partner, and everybody involved knows about it. While I don't support these compounds, I definitely cannnot support a law that makes people criminals simply for who they consensually sleep with. If people are guilty of rape, child abuse, or domestic violence, charge them with that, not polygamy.

The compounds are quite disturbing, but the idea that you can or want to be with more than one person, AS ADULTS, is less of an athima to me as it once was.
BUT....
I also think before we can have multiple people tied together, we need to make sure anyone of appropriate, legal age can marry, two men, two women, a man and a woman... no exceptions.

If two people want to live together under this legal aegis, it should be open to all.

We can DREAM some, can't we?!? :blush:

"Hubbies!?! Turn-in all your paychecks to my private (male) secretary." :P

:shrug:

;)

U hav a gud dey two teech! :P

information ... never thought to check it. Thanks again, even if you embarrassed me a little, you're alright by me. :-) :hi:

it is a branch of christian religion pushing for polygamy. It was probably christianity which outlawed polygamy for everybody in this country in the first place.

If people want to marry other consenting adults, let them.

It just occurred to me, that who are you divorcing?
hubby 1, wife 2?

Lawyers will have lots of new business instead of searching for somebody to sue.

Oh, it sounds so good, let consenting adults marry whomever they want. I don't have a problem with my gay and lesbian sisters and brothers marrying. But Polygamy is a totally different issue.

There has never been a nation that allowed polygamy that didn't also treat women as chattel. I don't understand the social reasons, but I have seen the results. Maybe it's because when you have more than one of something it loses it's value. Maybe because old rich men accumulate thousands of wives while young (and usually poor) men end up with NO wives. Every large society that allowed polygamy has become a nation of misogynist and treated women as sub-human.

Until we can understand the causes and reasons for this. I would avoid polygamy like the plague.

This is all just academic.
IF Utah did this, they would probably be kicked out of the union, or more likely over turned on those exact points - women as cattle.

In my personal life, i'd use it to protect someone I care about, who needs freedom from her situation, since she's too old for my wife n I to adopt her :)

Also how would you structure it? I mean legally, who is married to who? If I married another man (not impossible, I can think of at least one guy atm ;) ) would I have a husband and a wife, and does my wife have two husbands now? Does my husband have a husband and a wife, or just me, and I happen to also have a wife?

The thing about poly, legally, is it gets REALLY sticky REALLY fast.

While it is a nice idea sometimes, it's not a practical one.

And where do you draw the line?

2 mates? 3, 4, 1000?

At what point is it just impossible to keep adding mates?

And at what point is all this unfair to the other mates?

IF poly were ever allowed, then it should be 5 kinds of hell to get. This is not the sort of thing that should be willy-nilly available to anyone.

But I'm sure the divorce attorney community would love it!

and people don't even have to be legally married in order to believe that their partner somehow "belongs to" them.

Also, women can be just as "worthless" under monogamous countries as they can under polygamous ones.

The US has been a monogamous country since its birth. How long did it take before women were allowed to vote? How many women are still...in the 21st Century, getting paid less than a man for doing equal work? How many men (and women) are out there trying to pass laws that take away a woman's Right To Choose? Women are still, to some extent, seen as second class citizens, right here in our own backyards.

I don't think we should bash polygamy for being a cause of various social ills.


In any case...and I say this only partially tongue-in-cheek...seems to me that men with many wives should know that they had better treat them with some sort of kindness lest those wives get together and beat the holy living shit out of the guy for being an asshole. Strength in numbers, you know...

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PS...I'm not defending polygamy, and I don't know if I'm really against it, either. Personally, I don't care what other consenting adults do with themselves.