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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:05 PM
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WSJ: Gay, Proud and Conservative
Why post this? We need to be aware of any changes in the Republican party. Nov. 2010 when "traditionally" the party in power loses is not that far away. - qe


APRIL 14, 2009

Gay, Proud and Conservative
A new group asks the GOP to return to its Reaganite roots.

By WILLIAM MCGURN
WSJ


'There's a stereotype that if you're gay, you're liberal - and if you are a conservative, you're a bigot. Well, there are people like me who are gay and conservative, and we think it's important that we have a voice." The speaker is Jimmy LaSalvia. Tomorrow morning in Washington, Mr. LaSalvia and his allies will launch a new tax-exempt 527 political organization they hope will be that voice for gay conservatives. Called GOProud, it will certainly make for a more interesting Republican Party -- and a richer internal debate. Mr. LaSalvia, the new group's executive director, points to the arithmetic. In the 2008 presidential election, between 4% and 5% of voters self-identified as gay. Of these, 27% went for John McCain. That works out to 1.4 to 1.8 million gay Republican votes.

"If you pulled the lever for John McCain in 2008, then passing hate-crimes legislation or ENDA is probably not your priority," says Mr. LaSalvia. "Most issues that are defined as 'gay' issues have been defined by the left. We take a different approach." Health care is one example. Mr. LaSalvia points out that many gays do not believe their best interests are served by government-run health care. To the contrary, he says, they believe they would be better served by private-run individual accounts that are portable, that put them in charge of their own health care, and that would allow them to designate their own beneficiaries.

(snip)

Take abortion. Christopher Barron, GOProud's chairman of the board, points to an example from a few years back, when a Maine state legislator introduced a bill that would have outlawed abortion for a child thought to be gay, in the event genetic testing ever reached that point. That politician, Mr. Barron says, received virtually no support from gay groups. Though he himself is pro-choice, he says, "I want pro-life gays to know they have a home here." There may even be some common ground on the issue that most divides GOProud from long-standing Republican orthodoxy: gay marriage. Like most conservative organizations, GOProud is skeptical about using courts to advance social change. They also tend to believe that social issues like this one are best left to the American people acting through their state legislatures.


(snip)

Whatever else it is, these are not your father's gay Republicans. To the contrary, GOProud springs from a growing dissatisfaction among some gay Republicans that the Log Cabin Republicans, the traditional gay advocacy group within the party, has drifted to the point where its positions are indistinguishable from those of the left. It didn't help when the Washington Blade chimed in with a report that Log Cabin's biggest contributor, Tim Gill, is a Democrat.

(snip)

The ironies are legion. Since the loss of Congress and Mr. McCain's defeat in November, any number of people have come forward to suggest that if the party ever wants to win again, it has to abandon its conservative principles. What does it say about the Beltway's established ideological boxes that it is the gay wing of the Republican Party which is now advocating for a return to the party's Reaganite roots?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123966833747115385.html
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:11 PM
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1. They can't even spell irony, much less know the definition.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:19 PM
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2. "...and STUPID..."
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:19 PM
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3. I thought this was from The Onion at first.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:23 PM
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4. Don't want to pay taxes
Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 02:23 PM by get the red out
won't get pregnant or get anyone pregnant, so doesn't care what happens to people who face an unwanted pregnancy, and has enough money to guarantee his safety through the good ol' boy elite channels should the world he will try to vote in ever come to be. Of course poor gay people are screwed in Palin/Jindahl Universe. Just like rich women ALWAYS have abortion as an option, so who cares about the poor girls who die in the back ally.

Just another example of rich people not giving a damn.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:27 PM
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5. "There are people like me who are gay and conservative"
Which proves that yes, some gay people are mentally defective. What person other than someone who has little touch with reality would support their own destruction?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 05:41 PM
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8. Just goes to show you that in this democracy we don't always make the best choices for ourselves.
Cite this and Bush 00 and 04. Nuff said.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 03:03 PM
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6. Good luck with that, Mr. LaSalvia.
The fundies running the party don't want anything to do with you.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 03:22 PM
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7. Mr. LaSalvia points out that many gays do not believe their best interests are served by government-
-run health care.

Yeah, sure moran ... tell that to a gay man who has to buy HIV drugs each month
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