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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:01 AM
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The Tortured Logic of the Torture Superfans

Bob Cesca

Posted April 22, 2009 | 10:08 PM (EST)
The Tortured Logic of the Torture Superfans



On average, the same number of Americans who were killed on September 11 will die from cancer over the next two days. 40,000 people this month. More than half a million throughout the course of the year.

Your chances of being killed at the hands of a terrorist, on the other hand, are comparatively remote. Some estimates show the odds at one in 9.3 million.

Why, then, are Republicans -- from the very serious moderates to the buggy-eyed Glenn Beck spasmodics -- embracing the broadly condemned and immoral act of government sponsored torture, while, often in the same talk radio segment, predicting the end of the world due to government plans guaranteeing that Americans will be able to afford healthcare? Somehow, irrational fear wins the day once again over a very rational desire to be treated for an illness without, you know, going broke.

Without explanation or logic, and following months of screeching about tea parties and tyranny and big government, the usual suspects on the right appear to be demanding that the government retain the power to do anything -- anything! -- in order to protect us from a terrorist attack. This, naturally, includes torture, but from what I'm hearing, there's no limit to what they'd allow. Whatever it takes, right? As FOX & Friends' Brian Kilmeade remarked on Monday: "It feels good" that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in a single month. And here I thought only shiny jingly objects made Kilmeade feel good.

But it's not just Bush administration officials they're defending here. Extrapolating what the torture superfans are suggesting, they appear to believe that in light of the threat of terrorism, any administration should be able to torture, including the current president. In other words: they're simultaneously accusing President Obama of being an oppressive and tyrannical "fascist," while also insisting that he should exercise the power to do whatever he wants in order to prevent another terrorist attack. Put yet another way: unchecked government power is awful, unless Sean Hannity is scared. Then it's excellent. Put a third way: WTF?

Meanwhile, your very real fear of bankruptcy, homelessness and illness is not "my problem." You liberal pinhead you.

As closely as I've been following the wingnut right lately, their ability to contradict themselves never ceases to confound. Stir into the mix a resurgence of irrational fear harkening back to 9/11 and the incongruities multiply faster than Newt Gingrich's wives. :)

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-tortured-logic-of-pro_b_190342.html
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:12 AM
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1. Should suspected RW terrorists be tortured?
The latest intelligence estimates show there to be a major terror threat from the far right.

So, if we proceed according to Fox News logic that torture is necessary to thwart terror plots...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:17 AM
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3. I'm in...
not really, torture is wrong for everyone, even though some would probably learn from it. Might change their warped warble.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:15 AM
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2. K & R for a fantastic leap of logic
This Bob Cesca feller writes real purty too!
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