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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:28 AM
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Dowd: Nancy Pelosi? Cheney broke the law and authorized torture

Maureen Dowd: Nancy Pelosi? Cheney broke the law and authorized torture



Cheney, Master of Pain

by Maureen Dowd

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17dowd.html

Dick Cheney has done many dastardly things. But presiding over policies so saturnine that they ended up putting the liberal speaker from San Francisco on the hot seat about torture may be one of his proudest achievements.

Nancy Pelosi’s bad week of blithering responses about why she did nothing after being briefed on torture has given Republicans one of their happiest — and harpy-est — weeks in a long time. They relished casting Pelosi as contemptible for not fighting harder to stop their contemptible depredations against the Constitution. That’s Cheneyesque chutzpah.


Besides, the question of what Pelosi knew or didn’t, or when she did or didn’t know, is irrelevant to how W. and Cheney broke the law and authorized torture.

Philip Zelikow, who was State Department counselor for Condi Rice and executive director of the 9/11 Commission, testified last week before Congress that torture was "a collective failure and it was a mistake," perhaps "a disastrous one."


More and more the timeline is raising the question of why, if the torture was to prevent terrorist attacks, it seemed to happen mainly during the period when the Bush crowd was looking for what was essentially political information to justify the invasion of Iraq.

I used to agree with President Obama, that it was better to keep moving and focus on our myriad problems than wallow in the darkness of the past. But now I want a full accounting. I want to know every awful act committed in the name of self-defense and patriotism. Even if it only makes one ambitious congresswoman pay more attention in some future briefing about some future secret technique that is “uniquely” designed to protect us, it will be worth it.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:37 AM
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1. The tide is turning.
Justice will be served.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:50 AM
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2. Yes it is. I'm seeing a light (a bright one) at the end of the tunnel. n/t
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:16 AM
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4. You are correct. nt
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:54 AM
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3. K&R
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:20 AM
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5. Maureen Dowd is a hypocrite and fake.
I have seen her bring down politicians on both sides because SHE didn't like them, for whatever wispy reason flitted through her smoke-like mind. If she's on your side in one matter, wait a minute; she'll call you a fool and a failure when her little mind flip-flops to the opposite state.
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:02 AM
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6. You are absolutely right!
:thumbsup: The so-called MSM is as responsible as the Bush-Cheney cabal!!:puke:
Her name should be changed to "Eve", not three faces....maybe five or six!:crazy:

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:56 AM
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9. She, Rich and Bob Herbert worked hard to depict Gore as a liar. nt
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:21 PM
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14. Actually, "Eve" had more personalities: twenty.
And she was never "cured" to have one personality; she lived with them all, and so did her family. And they were not "false faces." The real lady, Chris Costner Sizemore, said that they were intact individuals, all twenty of them.

That is far different than the one personality of Maureen Dowd, who has only one agenda; being a snarling, contemptuous slanderer and backbiter.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:06 AM
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7. How very true.
If she and others hadn't ridiculed Gore in 2000, the U.S. woul have been a very different place the last 8 years. I don't care what she writes now. She helped put Cheney in office and has blood on her hands.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 11:10 AM
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10. Yep. She, Rich and Herbert, among others. nt
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justinaforjustice Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 12:11 PM
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11. Yes, A Hypocrite, A Fake, But Correct Here.
I find Dowd insufferable. She never matured beyond high school. But it is significant that she is coming out for accountability. Maybe common sense has even reached the adolescents among us who previously preferred to keep their heads in the sand about the true horrors of the Bush-Cheney crimes.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:16 PM
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13. Today, accountability. Tomorrow, the color of his tie.
She is a flake. Her support means nothing because she gives and takes it at will. Never rely on a flake. They will always let you down, because they (especially Dowd) have no principles.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 07:33 PM
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15. AND she ripped off Josh Marshall for this!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 12:41 AM
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17. I agree
I absolutely cannot fucking stand her
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:08 AM
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8. Maybe they finally found the right dosage.
Or they switched her meds completely.

She actually sounds sane, for a change.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:14 PM
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12. Isn't the point that she has this one right. Dick and Brainless did the
torturing. Obama must investigate asap. It is unfair to his fellow dems to let them hang out there, when a Special Prosecutor could clear everything up for good. Holder appoints a SP. Obama does not need to do anything, except okay the appointment. Then let the chips fall where they may. If Obama truly thinks releasing the photos will harm our troops, what does he think hiding our crimes will do for all of us. That will bring down the censure of the world, leave us more vulnerable for future attacks and worst of all create a policy where anything goes when the president says so.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 12:09 AM
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16. Maureen Dowd? Obama's failing to prosecute torturers.
And the Henna Harpy is the one who has the "come to justice" moment?

I thought the http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124242595415225131.html">cheer leading from the WSJ neo-con page was bad.

What's next -- a Peggy Noonan column waxing rhapsodic about the presidential basketball shorts?

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