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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:27 AM
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Americans ‘Don’t Care’ About GM, Bankruptcy-Stung Detroit Says
June 2 (Bloomberg) -- General Motor Corp.’s reign as the world’s largest automaker made Detroit a proud city, said Ted Dobski, a retired GM executive from nearby Beverly Hills.

With its filing for bankruptcy yesterday, GM means something else to its hometown, he said.

“Bankruptcy is an incredible stigma,” said Dobski, 65. “I hate to see GM connected with that. GM is such an icon. GM is this area. It’s Detroit.”

Detroit residents are struggling to come to grips with what would have been unthinkable as recently as 2004, when GM was completing a 10-year run in which it earned $41 billion, milking profits out of jumbo sport-utility vehicles like the Chevrolet Suburban and Silverado pickup trucks.

From the GM gift shop at the airport, the Automotive Hall of Fame near Ford Motor Co.’s headquarters in Dearborn to Diego Rivera’s 1930s “Detroit Industry” murals at the art museum, autos and Detroit became synonymous, and making cars more than just a way of getting a paycheck.

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:35 AM
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1. Dobski is very misguided
No one wanted GM to go bankrupt.

Now I would like to lop off the heads of the executives who led it down the path to bankruptcy. But GM makes the Camaro and the Corvette, two cars that are really part of the American mystique and iconography.

When the GM execs started making decisions to cheapen their cars in the 1970s so that the Japanese automakers got a strong foothold in the quality market, and as of late jumped way under the covers with the oil bidness to bring us shit like the gas-guzzling Hummer, the execs are the ones who showed they didn't care about GM.

It wasn't the U.S. It was the corporate goldhats that took that company down.

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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:12 PM
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2. Whoa, some of the blame does go to the U.S.
Japan was way ahead in quality because of the regulation that country put on manufacturing and the safety of autos. Japan didn't build gas guzzling cars because they taxed gas up to 6 bucks years ago. Strict government controls and super high taxes, or socialism if you want to call it that, help their auto companies become world a success.
When you hear some "capitalist" talking about how the market weeded out the inefficient American company. Please tell them that buying any foreign built car supports socialism in the country that it is built in. Only American built cars support capitalism. Japan and Germany with their high quality have socialized medical systems. Mexico, nationalizes large industries like oil. Canada has that terrible medical system you are worried sick about coming here. Then South Korea is protective of it's markets. IF YOU BUY A FOREIGN CAR YOU ARE A SOCIALIST(COMMY), at least you don't support our way of life.
I don't agree with anything I've said, but it is great to use on libertarians.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:10 PM
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3. They Bet the Company on Hummers, While They Sent the EV1s to the Crusher


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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:04 PM
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6. big big money holding cdos was banking on gm going bankrupt
and the little whore politicians do what the big money wants
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 02:50 PM
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4. Detroit a proud city...he said...from ... Beverly Hills.
If he loved Detroit so much - what the fuck is this HYPOCRITE doing in BEVERLY HILLS?!!!

Another repuke with a huge case of cognitive dissconnect...
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 03:44 PM
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5. well if GM had changed their ways like 25+yrs ago...how much
competition do you have to encounter before you GET the message?!! GM has taken themselves/reputation, their employees, and the U.S. taxpayer all the way to bankruptcy court!-while the CEOs keep counting their $.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:39 PM
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9. doesn't help when our government lets other countries dump
the merchandise they want to sell here at prices unfair to u.s. makers.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:21 PM
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7. Detroit Was Ford and Chrysler Country
GM had Flint, until it destroyed it.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:15 PM
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8. GM Bought into the Enron mentality of fiction long ago
They are but one diseased Kidney that needed to go in order to save the organism as a whole.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 04:54 AM
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10. GM has been in trouble for decared - the company was too fat ans stupid
to do anything about it except dig a deeper hole. They were terribly managed, made terrible mistakes and were saved only because they made slightly better than average cars and generated some brand loyalty for a while.
They should be glad to still be around and to have a chance to come back and they better be smart enough to take it.

mark
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