Obama: The quickly failing president

http://www.examiner.com/x-2883-NY-Modern-Culture-Examiner~y2009m6d29-Obama-The-quickly-failing-President

There is an old saying, “If you stand for everything then you stand for nothing.” That statement sums up the failure of Barack Obama, a man who cares so much about being popular and loved amongst the populist that nothing will get done. (click link for the rest of Todd Bogin's article)

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This temper-tantrum bullshit that Obama hasn't cured the world yet has got to stop.

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Grow up, is my advice.

just like 90% of the democrats in washington. Nothing to do with your simplistic tantrum premise.Facts are facts and you should stick to them if you have any concern for truth.

months into office.

They tried it once, and it actually worked with a lot of folks, so, it makes sense they'll try it again.

Folks, don't fall for it this time.

I saw he was stating we have a majority that may not be there in '12 and we should be capitalizing upon it now, and his views on the international crisis, and Gay marriage were good. His title may have been a bit hefty, but in many ways, we haven't seen a lot of promise as of yet, and I consider President Obama a centrist at this point, and that's not positive for change. I guess I'm just a dreamer thinking we'd get true progressive change with a D president and a majority in the Congress.

The same forces that attacked President Clinton 24/7 are at it again. Now they have every American with a shred of racism/bigotry in their hearts waiting for further instructions. But the misinformation doesn't stop with "Obama's failed presidency", it extends to every aspect of life.

and what Rev. Moon's little asshole "Journalists"/"Experts" think?

He sounds very liberal and as I said earlier, he even stands up for Gay marriage despite saying he's Straight and believes in Gay marriage as a right. It was well measured overall, I thought.

One point he really hit upon, we have a majority now and we should be taking advantage of it - it's truly pointing out who's progressive in our party and who's a centrist afraid to do anything that changes things. Because if healthcare with a public option doesn't pass - I'd rather nothing passes then!

This section is just pure neocon madness:

"By speaking out against Amadenajad {sic} and his regime...he can turn the worlds view points against them and possible get an overthrow which will work in his favor".

Man, am I tired of it. Six months into a first term and we get this from both sides now.

Politics is the art of the possible. Expecting the impossible is not rational.

I expect a lot when we have such a large majority in Congress and a D president that ran on "Change".

Do you expect a lot of counterfactuals?

It seems very dangerous to me.

dictator. They should do it on their own however. They don't the president of our country getting too involved at this point, although he has started speaking out more this past week.

encouraged them to rise up!

I don't think so.

those trying to bring about change. but, yes, hyperbolic statements without support from the USA could be disastrous.

Democrats are not cast in the same mold, as we have just seen in the narrow passage in the house of the energy bill.

There are Democratic House and Senate members who are not fully progressive. Now, we may be able to take care of that situation at some point, but we have what we have for the moment.

It's not doomspeaking to say that the impossible is just that.

Things are not going as quickly as I'd like. I am not surprised. I am a pragmatist, even in political matters, since I recognize that expecting what will not happen immediately leads to certain disappointment.

Six months into the first term. It bears repeating.

It's an incredibly difficult job, with expectations from the public almost always exceeding what is possible. So far, President Obama is showing exceptional resilience. But you're right, by 2012, he's going to look older. After his second term, he will be glad to leave office.

In the meantime, we can help by not trying to chop his feet off. That would be good.

but I found it assuaged enough in reasonable arguments that it was interesting to read. It certainly has gotten a lot of viewers. Most of what he says is how half the people on this board feel. The "quickly failing" part is a tad rushed, however, there's plenty to be upset by, but as you've pointed out, things take time. Thanks for the conversation.

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http://www.examiner.com/x-2883-NY-Modern-Culture-Examiner

Not much of a political reporter.
He lost me with the bad grammar and saying he just wasn't going to vote again.

" I want all Republicans who might think that I am joining their side to know, you guys are way worst and did horrible things to this country during your reign and I will never join your side; I’ve just come to the conclusion that I will never again vote in an election."




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people who are just into politics a bit, and are let down by what they perceive as not a lot of change, and a lot of catering to the banks. He clearly states he's Democratic in the comment about telling Republicans don't think I'll ever join you and his opinions are mostly liberal-minded.

I find it refreshing to read other people's viewpoints. He definitely wishes for true change, and although he may lack the nuance to assuage the most gifted of political readers on issues, his intent is something I'd call a growing feeling I see in daily society. People are starting to become unhappy about the situation in D.C.

Here's to hoping things get better. We all have to keep writing/calling the WH and Congress telling them what we want for our country.

I do have a problem with a 20-something cultural writer who states flatly in his title: "quickly failing president"
It's hyperbole and I just don't give much weight to his opinion.

take for granted - a Democratic who is not heavily into politics, but voted last year for him and may not again. Several of the people I persuaded to actually get out and vote this time are not impressed with Obama so far. And sadly, his backtracking on DADT is making him another "politician" to many in the GLBT area, which is a significant money source for the party. I just hope he gets it together and takes a hold of the majority in a way that he is not at the present time.

best!

Over the years, I've worked on both sides of this issue -- as a writer and as an editor. I've written nuanced articles that have been sensationalized by headlines I didn't choose or write. And I've been blasted by writers for mischaracterizing or over-simplifying their articles with the headlines I stuck on them.

So don't obsess over the headline too much.

If you accept the dubious premise that Obama is failing, it's because he's not listening to the populace, that they're getting drowned out by all the DLC and Wall Street Democrats that comprise the inside the beltway bubble.

I would hope he's doing his own research and following polls to find out where the center really is, not where men like Al From tell him it is.

If he's not doing that, then perhaps he will fail. However, Bogin's just a little premature on that as well as having missed the point.

He may not give everyone the pony they want but to many people he's doing a good job. I think the majority still say he's doing a good job.

given the fact that the president remains extremely popular with the population as a whole and off the charts with Democrats, I have to wonder how many of the people who continually demand their pony and bash Obama on this board actually voted for him to begin with. I smell Naderites in all this crap (not just this post, but the Pony Lobby in general.)

other people's writings that interested me, or that I wrote myself. I love, absolutely LOVE it when loud folks like yourself come in brandishing that pony line and they've been on the board less than a few weeks and they go around wholesaling anyone who posts commentary that isn't ass-kissing as being "Naderites". I pushed quite hard for Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama. I don't like it when politicians don't do what they say they're going to do and I don't like it when you can't tell the difference in the politician's policies from the last person who was in office who had an (R) next to their name.

As for popularity - whoopdeedoo - B*sh had a 90% popularity, in fact both, and I thought they were both horrible "leaders" every day they were in office - so bug off and watch your tongue when you don't take the time to think about how you don't know long time users allegiances and only go off a tiny window of commentary that is posted for discussion.

Have You Been Bashing Dems since '04?

Posting neo-con crap since then?

NOt this nonsense again. submitting 1000s of posts does not grant you a DU doctorate, nor give your opinion more weight than a newbie post.

He is aiming for the mushy middle of mediocrity instead of becoming one of our greatest Presidents, but, just this once, I will invoke that phrase that usually makes me roll my eyes, "he's only been in office 5 months!". He may yet ditch mediocrity for greatness. That would be too cool.

It is unlikely that the Dems will have this much of a majority after the 2010 elections. IMHO Obama has been a disappointment. The Obama fans are letting him off too easy with the quintessential hero worshiping. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism...friends do it all the time...It is also considered helpful in academia. If DU can't criticize Obama, then who can?

I was under the impression that, compared to most presidents, Obama has actually got quite a lot done in the first few months of his presidency. In spite of what the nay-sayers say, it bodes well for the next 4 or maybe 8 years.

...as many here would like him to, I guess they will find some comfort in being able to say, "We showed them". But then, the perpetual victims among us will have a president who at least legitimizes to a point, the goddamn crying, pissin', moaning, and groaning we have to endure now. I never knew how much some "progressives" hate it when a Democrat wins, but it's starting to sink in. Thanks.
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No one here in DU wants President Obama to fail. Having a disagreement with President Obama's policies hardly equates wanting him to fail. Why would you promote a right wing position?