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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 09:05 AM
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Cheney’s Plans for a Military Coup
From Scott Horton's http://harpers.org/subjects/NoComment#hbc-90005434">blog a Harper's:

...Even the Times article makes clear that other considerations drove the preparation of the Yoo memoranda, namely to “test the Constitution.” The Lackawanna Six were being tightly monitored by the FBI, which believed it had the situation well in hand. But Cheney lacked confidence in the nation’s criminal justice system, as many of his public comments reflect.

...The new disclosure seems again designed to show Cheney as an extremist whose advice was not always followed by Bush.

But it is relevant to another issue now looming before the Obama Administration. The theories that Yoo and his colleagues concocted on White House commission were realized in a sense when Bush agreed to designate certain individuals as “enemy combatants” and then have them held by the military outside of the American legal system. This step was uncontroversial when applied to a person captured on a foreign battlefield. But when applied to an American citizen who arrived off a plane at O’Hare Airport (Jose Padilla), or to a foreign national lawfully in the country on a student visa (Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri), it raised serious questions. President Obama has stated that he is now considering whether he has the power to order the detention of persons outside of both the laws of armed conflict and the U.S. criminal justice system. While the Yoo memoranda have been repudiated, their arguments of almost limitless presidential power seem almost as appealing to the current White House as the old one.



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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 10:20 AM
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1. Yes indeed:
"their arguments of almost limitless presidential power seem almost as appealing to the current White House as the old one"

Yet nary a peep about it, even (especially?) here.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 10:30 AM
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2. This brings up the question of who was really ruling the country?
Cheney clearly wasn't because he would have been able to accomplish this violation of the Constitution. George W. Bush wasn't because he is an idiot and the smart people wouldn't let him rule without lots of help.

So who ruled the country during the bush* administration?
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 10:41 AM
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3. THAT is the point: It's the SAME people who are ruling it NOW.
There is a different "face" on this administration, but overall, we're still at war, corporations control the voting machines, the military/industrial complex owns the media, and the citizens don't count for shit. We're little consumer/worker units, nothing more, nothing less.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:31 AM
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5. I agree but who specifically. They need a leader of some sort. Who can it be. nm
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:37 AM
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6. NWO...an elite few...eom
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 04:55 PM
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7. Break Open the C Street Brothel, and Find Out
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 07:37 PM
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8. They only need lack of leadership. Like the DC-Dems.
As long as those who might actually DO some damn thing keep "looking away forward," instead of prosecuting and purging known war criminals, the patrionic minions can serve whoever/whatever they choose/fear most.

The process continues due to the passivity/impotence of the enabling actors.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 11:01 AM
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4. well Scott Horton..you will now go on the poop list here at DU...or
under the very crowded bus!..

PSSSS..go to front of the bus in the summer months..it's cooler....back of the bus for heat in the winter!!
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 08:46 PM
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9. During Bush Hell, I honestly thought there would be a Military Coup
I knew we were close. Now it's payback time - jail the fascists pigs!
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AnotherDreamWeaver Donating Member (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:04 AM
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10. I was so hoping they would all be arrested in NY in 2004....
(inside job believer... ae911truth.org )
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:45 AM
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11. Cheney was right.
"But Cheney lacked confidence in the nation’s criminal justice system, as many of his public comments reflect."

We now know Cheney was right. The nation's criminal justice system is a failure. As long as Richard (The Dick) Cheney remains free, it is a failure. And that is the fucking truth.

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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 05:04 AM
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12. Kick
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