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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 01:54 PM
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It's possible to be a fascist and not know it.
In fact, most of the rank and file fascists don't find out what they are until it's too late.

That is all.
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pbrower2a Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:26 PM
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1. It's Orwellian!
Look carefully at 1984 by George Orwell for showing the technique: the ruling elite arranges "Love Sessions" (note the fraudulence of language when it comes from a totalitarian group or at least a wannabe clique of totalitarian figures like Karl Rogue, Darth Cheney, and George Worthless Bush) in which the Outer Party members get to see images of the objects of hatred (Goldstein and the international enemy of the day) in which the Party stirs up hatred. People in Oceania have little choice; they know that they are proles whose "socialism" is a system offering neither social justice nor economic security and that if they are young they are likely to be cannon fodder in war -- I mean "peace", as the Party deliberately confuses diametric opposites such as slavery and freedom just like hatred and love, and likely poverty and plenty, beauty and ugliness, life and death, and even hot and cold -- so that language is without meaning. People become as submissive as sheep yet as aggressive as wolves, as dangerous a combination as is possible.

Some of the disrupters of town halls seem to act as if they had just been through those "love sessions" organized by hired retainers of Hard Right interest groups and of course the giant corporations who use the Hard Right as political bullies now that the election is over. Barack Obama becomes the equivalent of "Goldstein" in 1984.

It's probably easy to get a mob. Organizers use the same people and entice them with the prospect of a trip out of town and perhaps a dinner at (I won't name names, as the mass-market restaurants are innocent of this) after the Town Hall session. Do the bidding of some giant corporation in disrupting the Town Hall meeting of some Congressional Representative out of one's district and get a $12 dinner... pretty cheap, I'd say! It breaks the boredom. One week it's Congressman Jones in South Bend; the next week it's Congresswoman Smith in Toledo; the next week it's Congressman Williams in Lansing.

Oh, it's all voluntary. You'd be surprised what suckers one can find with the lure of a little excitement and a nice chicken or fish dinner. If you can get people to listen to sales pitches for time-share condominiums for something like that, you can get people to disrupt a Congressional meeting with the public.

Democratic politicians want to promote a new health care system with better access to people who need it most, and the usual democratic process requires fine-tuning of potential legislation. The other side thinks in stark opposites of all or nothing -- the well-connected getting all and the rest, nothing. That's how things really are in the nightmarish "Oceania" of 1984. If we aren't careful with the Hard Right they will come back all the stronger and harder and impose their own reprise of the Rove/Cheney/Bush years, but this time with no chance of an election like 2006 or 2008; such elections as we will have will better resemble those of the old Soviet Union but in an order that doesn't even try to flatter the working people.
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