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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 07:33 PM
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Bernanke's Role: Create a bubble. Deny the bubble exists. Pop the bubble. Reinflate the bubble.
Edited on Tue Aug-25-09 07:49 PM by steven johnson
I am a curmudgen. I won't lie to children about Santy Clause. And I don't think there is a Golden Age of American Prosperity Just Around the Corner.

The national debt is $184,00 per person in the US. Entitlement obligations are coming due.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/Economy-Hits-Home-002.cfm

The national debt, which was 33 percent of GDP in 2001, will reach an estimated 54 percent of GDP this year, will hit 66.3 percent of GDP in 2010 and 76.5% of GDP in 2019.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/deficits-debt-and-the-economy/
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/business/july-dec09/nationaldebt_08-25.html
http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1017479.shtml

Hold on to your hats. This is unsustainable.








Now, maybe Bernanke is just talking his book. He's got a job to fight for after all (although it looks as though his reappointment in January is now in the bag after he received Obama's backing). But I suspect he believes what he's saying....The pattern is clear. Create a bubble. Deny the bubble exists. Then, when it pops, argue that your only responsibility is to clean up the mess. You do this by making money ever cheaper, encouraging careless lending and inflating another bubble.

"The exit from this seemingly illogical trade will leave China sitting atop a pile of devalued assets, but also, possessed of a world-class industrial infrastructure and having gone a long way towards hollowing out and undermining the economy of its sole strategic competitor."


Why the dollar is doomed
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 07:35 PM
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1. Thank you
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 07:38 PM
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2. As of which proves that we need to retake the DoD budget. It's the elephant in the room
and we can't sustain the world's military any longer. It's breaking our backs and would clear up this projected deficit. Plus taxing the rich at Jimmy Carter levels would help tremendously.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 07:42 PM
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3. Quoting the Heritage Foundation
is not going to win many arguments here, they are basically trying to scare you by pulling numbers our of their collective asses.

The debt IS something to worry about. Cost containment in entitlements is something to worry about.

And there will likely be action here. I've paid into Social Security for my entire life... and don't expect to collect much, if anything. And if I do, it won't be at 65 like my parents generation, but 70 or 72 or later.

But to quote the Heritage Foundation on matters pertaining to Social Security OR Medicare is just a non-starter.
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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:15 PM
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4. FactCheck.org -- $184,000 per family figure
Edited on Tue Aug-25-09 08:16 PM by steven johnson
And you have some other sources that give different figures for the total national debt per family? It isn't just the Heritage Foundation that comes up with the figure doing simple math.

Factcheck.org is not a conservative organizationand came up with a similar figure. It criticized McCain much more than Obama during the last campaign and has not shown significant ideological bias that I can see.



Kirchner said Isakson meant to say something different: "When you add the cost of this bill to the total national debt, it’s $100,000 per family to pay off that national debt."

That’s true enough, but isn’t saying much. The total national debt already stands at nearly $10.8 trillion, and figures out to more than $137,000 per family without adding in a penny from the stimulus bill.

Kirchner may be referring to the portion of the debt held by the public, excluding what the government owes to itself, chiefly through the Social Security trust fund. That figure already exceeds $6.5 trillion, and amounts to $82,292 per family. But nearly half of that was added during the eight years of the Bush administration.

What will the stimulus bill cost per family?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:50 PM
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5. +1
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:26 AM
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6. If We Were Actually Getting Any Benefit From This Debt Burden
but we aren't. It's just killing our economy, which will kill the democracy, which is probably the real goal anyway.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 05:07 AM
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7. There is this odd theory that our debt makes the US dollar the currency of the world
I have heard that said a few times. There is a benefit to being in debt, or so the theory goes.

Think of what we could have done if we never bought the MX missile, B1B bomber, F-22, or most of those overpriced spy satellites and spent the money on public schools and infrastructure.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 06:39 PM
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8. Ya think?
;-)
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