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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 11:21 AM
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Bi-Partisanship is Hurting Democrats
via "Mugsy's Rap Sheet":

After the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy last week, a parade of Republicans lined up to bemoan how his departure could spell the end of bi-partisanship in the Senate with regards to the healthcare bill. Because, as we all know, "bi-partisanship is a one-way street in Republicanland". Kennedy is gone. Ipso-facto, these guys can't be "bi-partisan" with anyone else, right?

When Democrats are in power, Republicans cry about "bi-partisanship", how "half the country" lacks representation and "their concerns deserve consideration too". But when Republicans controlled the White House and both Houses of Congress, they talked of "a permanent Republican majority".

(...)

To the public, "compromise shows weakness". The implication is that if you are willing to compromise on your core-beliefs, then they couldn't of been that important to begin with. President Obama keeps compromising on what "Healthcare Reform" actually means, and repeatedly gets nothing in return. Not only does he not win any Republican support, but he loses public support. When Republicans demand "bipartisanship", what they're REALLY demanding are "concessions" from Democrats. How many principles can you name that Republicans have budged on when it comes to healthcare reform?

(...)

President Obama and the Democrats keep compromising on their principles, and get nothing in return... less actually... losing public support while the Republican opposition appears to be "standing up for their principles" and threatening to "retake Congress" in the next election. Bill Maher put it best when he said "it is time for President Obama to start acting like George Bush", who didn't give a crap about being "bipartisan" or spend one minute worrying about what the Democrats want. They called a 52% election night victory "a mandate" that gave them the right to ram their agenda through with fewer votes than we have now. And when Democrats in the Senate complained, Republicans threatened "the nuclear option" to take away their right to filibuster.

Did ANY of that hurt John McCain's chances of being elected President? I don't even remember it being an issue. Stop compromising and stand up for what you believe in. The voters will still respect you in the morning. FAR more than they respect people that hold no principle so dear they won't sell it out.


Read the full Op/Ed on "Mugsy's Rap Sheet".
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 11:24 AM
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1. It's hurting 99% of Americans. nt
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 11:24 AM by valerief
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 11:26 AM
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2. Hear, hear! n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 11:27 AM
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3. Who gave this post a "negative" recommendation?
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 11:29 AM by Mugsy
To whomever voted this post down without posting a comment...

Why?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 01:24 PM
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6. THere are some unrec trolls on board
every post receives a few unrec's by lurking freepers.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:04 PM
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4. I'm all for bipartisanship with a sane party
However, to crib from Zombie Reagan... we should not negotiate with terrorists. The Republicns feel left out? Fuck them. Let them sit in the corner until they figure out why, and do something to fix it.
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:57 PM
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7. Kennedy's fault (maybe).
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 02:58 PM by Mugsy
I have my suspicion that Ted Kennedy put the "bi-partisan" bug in Obama's brain, after his 2008 endorsement as "the one he believed could bring the country together" and be the "uniter" that Bush only gave lip-service to.

But someone needs to take him aside and make him realize that "you can't be bi-partisan by yourself, and you're scoring no points with the public when you give without getting anything in return".

He wants to "work with" a wolf pack that preys on weakness. They see every "compromise" as a "retreat" that scores them votes so they can take back Congress in November. They talk of "Waterloo" and "winning" over doing what's right for the country.

President Obama needs to EARN their respect, and he's not doing that by letting them push him around.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 12:56 PM
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5. Quite Right, Sir
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 03:44 PM
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8. Bipartisanship is fraudulent political theater.
There is nothing wrong with an elected majority carrying out the will of the people that elected them, within the limits set by the Constitution. That is how it is supposed to work.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 04:16 PM
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9. Vampires VS The Van Helsings. Rarely will there be "Biselloutism".
Edited on Sat Aug-29-09 04:16 PM by Union Yes
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 06:07 PM
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10. Being bipartisan with Repubs right now is literally negotiating with terrorists.
Repus are using fear of death to gain politically. Their death panels, their claims that Repub voters will be blacklisted and denied health care, their nonsense about Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist, and their claims that we will suffer another 9-11 if we elect Dem leaders are all terrorist threats. Can we please stop treating these people as if they're not trying to destroy the country? They are trying; let's not help them.
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Mixopterus Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 03:36 AM
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11. Not surprised
The game is rigged.

Anyone who thought Obama was a true progressive is delusional, I just voted for him because he was better than the alternative.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 04:35 AM
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12. Rape is rape. Date-rape or not. Obama needs to co-opt Patrick Swayze onto
his team to do any "dirty dancing" with the Republicans. He'll make sure that, to paraphrase Ginger Rogers, they do everything he does - only backwards.

With Jason Bourne to take on the CIA, and Burt Reynolds to deal with the atavists in the South, he would have a triumvirate of almost frightening potential.
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