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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 06:15 AM
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Young Workers in Free Fall: 1/3 Under 35 Live with Parents
Young Workers in Free Fall: 1/3 Under 35 Live with Parents

By Art Levine, AlterNet. Posted September 3, 2009.

So much for the economic independence that's supposed to come with young adulthood.




So much for the economic independence that's supposed to come with young adulthood.

But when unemployment among young men workers is the highest it's been in 61 years, as noted by New York Times columnist Bob Herbert, it's little wonder that workers under 35 are facing so many economic obstacles.

On Tuesday, the AFL-CIO released the results of a disturbing new Peter Hart survey, "Young Workers: A Lost Decade" that found that about a third of workers under 35 live at home with their parents, and they're far less likely to have health care or job security than they were ten years ago. Even then, in a 1999 survey, when they faced economic insecurity, they still had reasons to be hopeful.

Those days are long gone. A quarter of young workers say they don't earn enough to even pay their monthly bills, a 14% rise from the last survey. As Richard Trumka, the presumptive incoming president of the AFL-CIO, said in a press conference today:

We're calling the report "A Lost Decade" because we're seeing 10 years of opportunity lost as young workers across the board are struggling to keep their heads above water and often not succeeding. They've put off adulthood - - put off having kids, put off education - and a full 34 percent of workers under 35 live with their parents for financial reasons.

Thirty-five percent are significantly less likely to have health care than older workers, only 31 percent make enough money to pay their bills while putting anything aside in savings, and almost half are more worried than hopeful about their economic future.

That's one reason that Trumka and other labor leaders announced this week a new outreach campaign to recruit young workers -- and a stepped-up drive for the Employee Free Choice Act and health care reform. They're using the upcoming Labor Day, with the expected involvement of 100,000 union members in just the AFL-CIO alone in events and actions, as a launching pad to spur Congressional action. ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/workplace/142386/young_workers_in_free_fall%3A_1_3_under_35_live_with_parents/




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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 06:27 AM
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1. A good friend of mine who just got her law degree has to move in with the 'rents
She said that most jobs she finds on the internet that will hire recent graduates will not pay enough for her to cover her expenses in the communities where they are located (Washington DC for the most part). She has huge law school debt on top of regular expenses and is looking at jobs that only pay $30,000 per year. That, she says, is on top of a bunch of Capitol Hill jobs that apparently are pro-bono. She says that jobs that pay anything close to a living wage are reserved for those with five years of experience.

Maybe this will convince her to stop being a Republican, but I haven't broached the subject yet.
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dgauss Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:11 AM
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8. To get a good job you need experience...
To get experience you need a good job.

That's a situation I've encountered and it's frustrating, to say the least.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:40 PM
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9. You, me and everybody else under the age of 25
My pal couldn't even get a waitress job at some kind of cheapo fried fish place while she was looking for something else because she'd never been a waitress before. It's a horrible paradox and it's really screwing us over. But, when you explain to older folks how the so-called world of "internships", which have become a prerequisite for everything, is really just a way to make everybody work for free for 6-12 months, they accuse you of "just wanting everything without having to work for it". I didn't know a living wage was such a radical concept.
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rantormusing Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:25 AM
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2. shames
Lately, when I've seen pieces like this, there has been less of blaming the victim which is progress of a sort. I bet a lot of these young people have hefty student loans to deal with too.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:27 AM
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3. My cousin, who is going to be a teacher, will come out of school $30,000+ in the hole.....
...... this is no way to run a society.



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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:04 AM
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4. We're paying all the student loans
for both daughters. As a result we can't save anything for "retirement", not that we expect to have such a thing. I hope by the time we reach "retirement" age, the kids will be solvent enough to buy our dog food and drop it off at the cardboard box at the highway overpass.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 08:46 AM
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5. Niece and nephew found themselves homeless in August.
Spare bedrooms are filling up fast.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:01 AM
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6. Yep.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:02 AM
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7. This describes a lot of people that I know.
Even if they aren't living at home, they are still heavily dependent on the parental units.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:28 PM
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10. It is a damn shame
That people who are willing and able to work can not find jobs. I've been looking for work for the last two years. The thing that I hear the most is that I don't have enough experience. How in the hell am I supposed to get the experience without a job? Am I supposed to wake up one morning and the experience fairy grants me the need experience?
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:12 PM
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11. Sounds like the 70s, advice: stay in school as long as possible. No one I know
who graduated from college in the mid 70s had a real job until about 1980. The only good thing was the cost of living was lower then.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 08:19 AM
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13. And we didn't have huge student loans
My tuition at Rutgers University was $200 a semester.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:46 AM
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 08:31 AM
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14. I knew who'd posted this without even looking to see the poster's handle! nt
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 08:37 AM
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15. Hey, I NEVER voted for them
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 08:41 AM by LiberalEsto
I'm a boomer, my husband's a boomer, and neither of us, nor our boomer friends and relatives, would ever have even considered voting for those bastards. Many of us were anti-war activists in the 60s and 70s, and remain progressives today.

I can't figure out why you are so eager to blame my generation for everything. There are right wingers and progressives in every generation. The ones who bought the Repuke lies were both young and old. I remember feeling horrified when I started to see far too many young people buying the Reagan garbage hook line and sinker and turning into Republican robots.

If you think all boomers are making out like bandits, think again. You seem to think we are wealthy.

I don't know whether my husband and I will ever get to retire, since we have zero savings and are up to our necks paying our kids' student loans. I've been unemployed for over a year, and absolutely nobody wants to hire a 57-year-old woman, especially when they can hire a 25-year-old (or someone from overseas) for a much lower salary and no benefits. I've worked since I was 14, but I buy clothes at yard sales.

My husband and I are just one major illness or job loss away from bankruptcy. We don't know if the Social Security system that we've paid into all our lives will ever give us a nickel. We don't know if our kids will ever be able to afford houses, let alone help us out if we fall into poverty. We don't know where we will scrape up the money for health insurance for our daughter when she turns 23 next month.

Many boomers are also struggling to take care of aging parents and pay huge nursing home fees, although this is not the case in my family.

Please don't be so hasty to blame my generation.

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 09:11 AM
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16. +1.. My So is retired, I can't find a job ( I'm a 55 year old woman) my daughter is
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 09:15 AM by madmom
still at home ( went back to school)technically living at home, son is making $9 an hour for a family of 5. Every penny we had saved for retirement is now gone ( someone had to help feed everybody). I was supposed to be retired right along with hubby but now I need to go back to work to help make ends meet. Yeah we boomers are really living high on the hog. Oh and I nor my hubby ever voted for any republican EVER!

Edited to add.. our insurance (supposed to be good) dropped our dental and vision completely and co-pays went from $25 to $80 and prescriptions are just to expensive to even think about. I just have to forget I'm diabetic and hope for the best.:grr:
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:38 AM
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17. Not all boomers are to blame
but I too grew up disgusted by my parents and inlaws verocious appetite for 'stuff' and excessive living. While they balked at any tax increase, the U.S. infrastructure left to them by their parents has gone to crap and will be left to my generation to fix.

The finger pointing can continue forever, but at the end of the day we're all in the same boat. There are endless examples of the selfishness and shortsightedness of the boomer generation that got us to our current mess and there will be endless opportunities for my gen-X to blow it for our kids. Stay tuned.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 12:41 PM
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20. But most of your generation did
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:29 PM
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21. He did... she did...they did...
Why not stop looking around for people to blame and grow up?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:36 PM
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22. Because people need to be held responsible for this, that way we can say "never again"
If we do not hold these people responsible generations to come will view this as a viable way of behaving.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:24 PM
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24. You are completely wrong.
Edited on Fri Sep-04-09 02:26 PM by LiberalEsto
Baby boomers tend to vote more Democratic than any generation except those in their 20s.

Gallup Poll article:
May 8, 2009
Democrats Do Best Among Generation Y and Baby Boomers
Republicans do better among Generation X
by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- Although Democrats currently enjoy a party identification advantage over Republicans among Americans at every age between 18 to 85, the Democrats' greatest advantages come among those in their 20s and baby boomers in their late 40s and 50s. Republicans, on the other hand, come closest to parity with Democrats among Generation Xers in their late 30s and early 40s and among seniors in their late 60s.
Link: http://www.gallup.com/poll/118285/Democrats-Best-Among-Generation-Baby-Boomers.aspx?CSTS=alert

Quote from article: "Baby boomers, as is well known, grew up in the tumultuous age of civil rights, Vietnam, Woodstock, and Watergate. It is certainly possible that these events have marked this generation in a more Democratic or liberal direction for life."

As for holding us responsible (For what? For voting Democratic?) what do you envision? Rounding us up into death camps? Please get over yourself.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:39 PM
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Daveparts still Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:43 AM
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18. While Working the Want Ads
I came across and ad for a fast food manager at a local mall. Full time job 35 hours per week. Must have at least three years experience in fast food. Must have dependable transportation and know what Punctual means! Must be willing to work weekends Friday,Saturday and Sunday!$9.50 per hour after 90 days.


I answered this ad only to set a few things straight, first, 35 hours is not full time 40 hours is full time. Second, Friday is not the weekend and $9.50 an hour is not a good wage to pay someone in an obviously hostile work environment. I then pointed out that 35 hours at $9.50 is not enough to keep ones head above water forcing the applicant to be less than punctual because he had to work for another asshole just like this one.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 11:47 AM
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19. Now I don't feel as bad about being one of them knowing the figure is so high. Still humiliating. nt
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YoungAndOutraged Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 01:45 PM
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23. And yet we're called lazy
Maybe if this continues long enough, America will finally eliminate the taboo that comes with living with your parents past the age of eighteen. Then I can say I still live with my Grandparents without being looked at as if I were some kind of slime creature that just crawled out of a sewage treatment plant.
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