Frank Schaeffer: "Glen Beck and the 9/12 Marchers:Subversives from Within"

This is who and what our country is up against. Our very own madrasas.

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The Anti-American Home Schoolers Come Of Age

We are now several generations into this experiment of holier-than-thou withdrawal from our American mainstream culture. If you wonder who it is that's both running and underwriting organizations such as the Family Research Council, Focus On The Family, Freedom Works and other organizers of the 9/12 March and who are the most faithful followers the likes of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh or viewers of Fox News your answer is: it's the home school/Christian school generation of men and women now hitting their thirties and even forties who might as well have been raised on a different planet.

What are these home school and Christian school children taught? Here's a quote from one of the far right's leading home school curricula creators:

"The political question is this: By what biblical standard is the pagan to be granted the right to bring political sanctions against God's people? We recognize that unbelievers are not to vote in Church elections. Why should they be allowed to vote in civil elections in a covenanted Christian nation? Which judicial standards will they impose? By what other standard than the Bible?"
(Gary North of Institute For Christian Economics)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/glen-beck-and-the-912-ma_b_284387.html

When they get out their bibles and their guns they think they're invincible.

afraid of those not like them esp. those who aren't their kind of 'Christian' which might lure/drag them and their families down to hell. Or at least tempt their fetus into being a Britney spears wanna be as then maryland gov wife Kendall Erlich apparently feared when she said she would shoot her if she could :crazy: http://www.clickorlando.com/entertainment/2537264/detail.html

afraid the end times/armageddon won't come before they or their kids get contaminated by the world so they won't get raptured.

no wonder they feared Obama on TV since they believe he isn't Christian so he must be on the opposite team in their mind with evil powers of mind control. Didn't beck suggest playing Obama's speech backwards like churches used to to prove rock music is really embedded with evil messages? :crazy:

I have to agree with you there. Frank is one helluva great communicator - speaking and writing.

I learn something because he lived among these folks for a long, long time. The information he puts out needs to be listened to, very carefully.

Am reminded of a family I know with 2 teenagers who have attended Christian schools all their lives. Mom & Dad were raised Catholic, but at some point left that church and turned "Christian." The kids are steeped in school and church activities, but Mom has a problem with the relatively new Gold Line train that runs from downtown L.A. north and east to their community. She told me she's tired of seeing "Mexicans selling fruits and vegetables on the street" near her home and faults the train line for bringing them too close to her family. Aye yie yie.

Because he admits to the faults.

you can see some great video from C-Span of him being interviewed on "Crazy for God." He can also be contacted directly at that site - I think he'd like to hear from us.

http://www.frankschaeffer.com

you can see some great video from C-Span of him being interviewed on "Crazy for God." He can also be contacted directly at that site - I think he'd like to hear from us.

http://www.frankschaeffer.com

Just more indication that some of those people really are crazy, while we hope that most are not.

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12 goats

We are well behaved dems. Dont shout. Dont say mean things. Dont act anyting but a perfect little boy/girl.

These people were broken the way terrorists in the hands of the CIA are broken -- but worse than that, they were broken as children and broken by the people they loved and trusted the most.

This is a form of child abuse even more pernicious than incest. It produces individuals who are less than fully human, often almost automaton-like in their behavior.

It's been documented that the groundwork for authoritarianism in pre-World War II Germany and Japan was prepared by abusive child-rearing practices and a norm of bullying in school and at work. But what we have in this country today isn't even a group of individuals who might be ripe for a doctrine that offers them a promise of the wholeness they lack in their own lives. Instead we have a group among whom that authoritarian doctrine is already present -- and is completely bound up with the abuse and degradation itself.

We can fight back against the bullies of the extreme right -- at least we can if we ever get our politicians to admit that what is going on is not merely politics as usual. But how will we ever provide wholeness to an entire spiritually damaged generation?

For anyone interested in reading this book she has allowed the full text to be posted here: http://www.nospank.net/fyog.htm

Spare the Rod is a site that covers modern books that advocate child abuse in the name of discipline including one by the Pearls which advises whipping babies under a year old with plastic tubing http://stoptherod.net/index.html

who saw the light a ways back. I went to one of his book signings for "Conservatives Without Conscience" where he explored the authoritarian personality/style. It all ties in, and he's another one I'd like to see on the teevee a lot more these days.

came from here: "The Authoritarians" by Prof. Bob Altemeyer

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

It's book length, but very, very worthwhile to read.

Edited for sp.

He's right on the money.

Then you have no room for the real truth..how could you? These home schooled idiots could have been
taught Elephants don't exist..and when you show them one, they would call you a liar! Their heads might explode but they will still call you a liar.




Just wait until the "Jesus Camp"ers grow up.. its gonna be hell in a few years.

Very afraid.

solution to the problem. I have one.

Why fight with these crazies? You can't teach a pig to sing, it's a waste of time and irritates the pig. Let's just give them their own "country". I suggest we give them the state of Texas as their own little Jesusland. No WMD, no air force, no navy, militia, sure all they want, without artillery or tanks. We could have the US military protect them against invasion by treaty.

Texas should be plenty of space to hold the 15 or 20 million idiots that are the movement. The US could pay for the relocation of the half wits to Texas and the relocation of the few sane Texans that would definitely want to leave. This could work.

reeducation camps already exist, but not how she envisions them.

I can see why his father may have been so charismatic if he's anything to go by. Articulate, righteous and knowledgeable, great article.