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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-15-09 06:26 AM Original message |
Democrats and Schools |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-16-09 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. As one critical of education and a teacher for two years, I say blaming the teachers is horse manure |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I agree--class size and giving teachers some freedom are crucial |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
2. Democrats are not cowed by teachers unions--they are cowed by right wingers |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 06:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Democrats have been cowed by teachers unions for years, imo. |
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dwilso40641 (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 06:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. If the Democrats are cowed by the unions, |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 06:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. You tell me. |
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dwilso40641 (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. We are not funding education. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 06:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I'd leave gop out of this conversation at the moment, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Democrats are finishing the GOP's goals for education. Jeb is ecstatic. |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. In this household. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. are you a teacher? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. No, I'm a lawyer (retired.) |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. how accurate are the public perceptions of how lawyers work? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Not very, but to some extent its because there are SO MANY |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. so do you suppose the way the media portrays public school teachers is accurate given |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. My points of view are based on personal experience and study, |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. that sounds pretty atypical. My wife is an elementary school teacher whose predecessor was FIRED |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Might she compare her predecessor's situation |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 04:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I have a guess: the teachers union is doing the best they can to influence the parts of the job |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Kristof is an ignoramus |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. You are correct, that the unions are in cahoots with administrators; |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:44 PM Original message |
I don't think they're in cahoots everywhere--it partly depends on the membership and most K12 |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I don't think they're in cahoots everywhere--it partly depends on the membership and most K12 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. Cowed by teachers' unions? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-17-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ronnie Reagan, you done good. Your lies about education worked. |
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dwilso40641 (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Look at California today, |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. I hope Kristof does a follow up column on who stands to profit from privatizing schools and who.... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
27. merit pay is repugnant to good teachers for a couple of reasons: |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Yes, merit pay will make teachers compete for dollars, rather than cooperate |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-18-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. There's no magic in Texas schools to keep you from being fired. But they |
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