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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:24 AM
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CNN: McCain: Why we can -- and must -- win the war in Afghanistan
Senator and former Presidential candidate McCain submitted this opinion piece to CNN on what he thinks about the Afghanistan situation;

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- For the first time since September 11, 2001, America is having a vigorous national debate about how to succeed in Afghanistan. This debate is entirely worth having. Whenever America sends its citizens into harm's way, it must do so with eyes wide open.

Though no veteran would ever think of himself as "pro-war," I believe that the fight in Afghanistan is critical to our national security. Our goals there are achievable and success is worth the continued sacrifice.

We must succeed in Afghanistan for many reasons, but one stands above all: the world walked away from Afghanistan once, and it descended into a cauldron of violence, hatred and human rights atrocities that served as the base for the worst terrorist attack in history against our homeland.

We cannot let that happen again, and we cannot let the Taliban and its al Qaeda allies conquer Afghanistan once more. Failure of this kind would also destabilize the entire strategically vital region, including nuclear-armed Pakistan.


My initial thoughts upon reading this was, right, I'm supposed to care about his opinion? I don't even want to think about where we would be right now if he had won last year. His is the party whose idea of diplomacy is whipping out one's private parts and saying that said private parts are bigger than everyone else's.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:27 AM
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1. I am so sick of this! What makes McCain think we can win where the
Russians failed? After 20 years of bleeding on Afghani soil, the Russians gave up.


DOES HE WANT US TO DO THE SAME??????????

am so sick of war and endless killing.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:29 AM
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2. McCain has been dead wrong on every issue since Bush's "war"
started. Why does no one in Big Media point this out?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:29 AM
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3. That's what was said about Viet Nam too.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:29 AM
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4. Who cares what a loser thinks
I guess since shitty politicians kept Vietnam going turnabout is fair play to him. At least the afghans don't take prisoners so no more "Hanoi Hiltons."

Fuck him and all like him who gleefully toss corpses on the bonfires of their ideologies.

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:59 AM
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5. Hey McCain!
I remember during the campaign you said you knew how to get Bin Laden. Have you shared that info yet? I not, then your 'opinion' ain't worth diddly squat.
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:06 AM
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9. McCain's plan to capture Bin Laden was to get himself into the White House.
Then he would continue Bush's failed policies and also "bomb bomb bomb Iran." Subsequently, the price of oil would skyrocket, terrorist attacks in the US would happen regularly, and thousands of American soldiers would die. Iraq would explode like a powder keg, and Bin Laden would double over, laughing hysterically. At this point, his guard would be down and he would be weak with laughter. Then we nab him! Ta daaa!
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:16 AM
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6. Another load of crap from a used-up neocon gas-bag
who was tortured and later said torture was a-okay with him.

Afghanistan is NOT a threat to the US. How the hell could they be? They have NOTHING. It is a ridiculous argument to make.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:17 AM
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7. The old "win" canard
What exactly would a win look like? A stable democracy? Not likely.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:54 AM
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8. Why should we believe this SENILE OLD man now - he's been WRONG on EVERYTHING...
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:04 AM
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10. We can't, and we won't.
There is no "win".

There never will be.

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Mulehead Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 12:35 PM
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11. Two points:
1) McSame's opinion is as irrelevant as so much anal vapor in the grand scheme of things. Someone should send him a Hallmark card gently breaking the news to him that he's officially irrelevant; and

2) Afghanistan for the US ruling oligarchy (oilgarchy) is the same as it was for the Soviet Union: a route to transfer Caspian Sea crude oil from Central Asia to the ocean port of Karachi, Pakistan. Specifically, UNOCAL has been working variously with the Taliban and whatever comprador warlord of the week has been installed by the US since 1996 to build a pipeline from the oil-rich Central Asian "republics" (the various "Stans", e.g. Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, through Afghanistan and Pakistan on the east side of the Caspian) to the Arabian Sea, and from Azerbaijan through either Georgia or Turkey on the west side for a route to the Black Sea. The Russians have a pipeline from their parts of the Caspian basin to Europe, the Chinese are building theirs' through Iran, and Uncle Sam and his capitalist corporate bosses are left with punching one through either Georgia and Turkey or through Afghanistan and Pakistan. Hence the need to promote all this "democracy" and "security" bullshit to keep the rubes in voter land fooled that it's for some noble cause like Democracy or remembering 9/11 (or the Alamo, the Maine, Pearl Harbor, etc.), and not just for oil and petrodollar profits.

Really, they should just tell the American sheeple the truth for once that the whole Iraq/Afghanistan thing is about cheap oil for their SUVs, which is an idea that they can support with all their hearts and minds.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 03:37 PM
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12. Shouldn't he be dead by now?
Remember that old canard during the election about McCain't not living through his term if he was President?
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