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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:15 PM
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I BELIEVED IN THIS WAR.. I WAS SO WRONG
Tony Parsons

What matters are the unimaginable forces that Blair has unleashed, and the hatred that will last for a thousand years.

STOP me if I am missing something here, but if former Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic can end up on trial for war crimes committed under his leadership, then why can't Tony Blair?

Former Yugoslav President Milosevic didn't personally murder anyone. He didn't actually rape anyone. And he didn't soil his suit by torturing anyone in a stinking prison cell.

And yet Milosevic stands accused of crimes against humanity. He faces life imprisonment for unspeakable atrocities in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo that happened when he was many miles away.

But Milosevic was dragged to The Hague because he was the man at the top, and the indisputable architect of a mountain of misery.

"He (Milosevic) controlled events," the judges at The Hague were told when his trial began, "because he controlled the people who constituted the bodies that did evil."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14226691%26method=full%26siteid=50143%26headline=i%2dbelieved%2din%2dthis%2dwar%2d%2d%2di%2dwas%2dso%2dwrong-name_page.html

And Bush is so loved in America by by by the Fascist Media Whores and Corporate Whores.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:17 PM
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1. All Tony Parsons is missing
is the obvious: that might makes right.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:24 PM
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2. What I want to know is how any thinking person could have believed in it.
How is it that I and many other "regular" people with no government access knew it was all bullshit from the door but a lot of writers, editors and other alleged journalists and so-called "thinking people" did not? I believe the media is as responsible for all this as the Chimp and Blair. Refusing to report the facts and not doing any investigation makes them just as complicit.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:34 PM
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3. I totally agree with you about the media.
And they're still doing it while they pretend to have a soul or a backbone.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:42 PM
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4. they are the panicky monkeys
They see a stick that looks like a snake, and soon they are all screeching and throwing rocks, with the rocks hitting poor little monkey babies. When the Chimpster started screeching, they figured he must have seen something, so they started screeching too, and this time they didn't even see a stick.

Makes you ashamed to be primate sometimes.
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Demoin04 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 10:55 PM
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5. You are not alone
I too wonder where were the voices of opposition, surely with my limited experience if I question the supposed "facts" because I thought they didn't hold water, there were more people doing the same?

I read two interesting things today:

One was how we all need to unplug ourselves from the endless stream of "information." So that we can reserve time in our lives to think. The trickery of the information age is to try and listen to it all the time since we can, we soon "think" opinion articles and analyst reports rather than formulating our own real thoughts.

The other wasn't reading but listening to an author (i'll try and summon up the name) driving in my car late tonight he was discussing in quite the calm, non feverent pitch voice about how successful the far right has been in gaining control of the government. That it's almost a one-party system. He remarked how the far right is even ok with admitting how extreme they are as their views often do not match the general populations.

I thought to myself on that last one of the prescription drug bill. That there is no way the elderly were the ones it was meant to benefit. Nothing of it's design implies aiding them... 50 cards, varying drugs coverage and benefits? where was the consideration for whom the bill was meant for? I don't even see it! and I think the government must have been ok with that... !

The other thing is that maybe there wasn't much opposition to accepting the rationalization of going to war in iraq in much the same way...

Sorry to go on a tangent of astronomical proportions.. I promise to keep it more in tune in the future.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:14 PM
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9. Information is not knowledge
Interesting thought:

...we all need to unplug ourselves from the endless stream of "information." So that we can reserve time in our lives to think. The trickery of the information age is to try and listen to it all the time since we can, we soon "think" opinion articles and analyst reports rather than formulating our own real thoughts.


I agree. "Information overload" is such a common expression that we can easily forget that it's a real danger. I'm not suggesting that "know-nothingism" is the answer, but that taking time to examine the incoming information, and just to contemplate, is also worthwhile.

While we're at it, it's also important not to get too bent out of shape over the latest poll figures (although they're hard to ignore). Following them daily and obsessing over their fluctuations is like day trading.

"Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is the best."
--Frank Zappa
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:38 PM
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6. 'complicit' isn't the word! It's called 'manslaughter'.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 08:17 AM
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7. Bush Blair The Butchers of Baghdad n/t
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rebellious woman Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:17 PM
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8. Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Rumsfeld, Pipes, Myers, Powell, Congress,
House, Christian Coalition, Robertson, Falwell,
Robinson, Poppy, USSC, every goddamned one of them
have blood on their hands and in case I have forgotten
some, I couldn't remember them all.
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