Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Is Our Tax System Helping Us Create Wealth? (David Cay Johnston, Commentary, Tax Analysts)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:37 PM
Original message
Is Our Tax System Helping Us Create Wealth? (David Cay Johnston, Commentary, Tax Analysts)
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2009/12/is-our-tax-system-helping-us-create-wealth.html

Excerpts:

During the 45 years starting in 1961, payroll taxes have gone from a minor levy to almost a sixth of wages for the bottom 90 percent of American households. This $760 in income tax savings that the average taxpayer enjoyed in 2006 was taken back, and more, by the increased tax rates for Social Security and Medicare. Those rates rose from 3 percent withheld from pay in 1961 to 7.65 percent in 2006. Not all income is from wages, of course, but those higher payroll taxes wiped out the seeming reduction in the income tax and more. ...

And at the top? Now, that’s a different story. The average income for the top 400 taxpayers rose over the 45 years from $13.7 million to $263.3 million. That is 19.3 times more. The income tax bill went up too, but only 7.8 times as much because tax rates plunged. Income tax rates at the top fell 60 percent, three times the percentage rate drop for the vast majority. And at the top, the savings were not offset by higher payroll taxes, which are insignificant to top taxpayers.

. . .

What is the social utility of creating a society whose rules generate a doubling of output per person but provide those at the top with 37 times the gain of the vast majority?

. . .

Is a ratio of gain of 37 to 1 from the top to the vast majority beneficial? Is it optimal? Does it provide the development, support, and initiative to maximize the nation’s gain? Are we to think that the gains of the top 398 or 400 taxpayers are proportionate to their economic contributions? Does anyone really think that heavily leveraged, offshore hedge fund investments are creating wealth, rather than just exploiting rules to concentrate wealth, while shifting risks to everyone else?

Under the overwhelmingly dominant economic theory of today, this is all good. Pareto argued that if no one was harmed, then all gain was good. Carried to an extreme, neoclassical economics would say that if the bottom 99.9999997 percent had the same income in 1961 and 2006, and all of the gain went to the one other person in America, that would be a good.

. . ,

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:38 PM
Response to Original message
1. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
2. the basic idea of taxing labor higher than non-labor income is hugely offensive
nevermind that it's highly regressive in practice, it's just plain offensive.

for the filthy rich to sit there and tell us that their cash earning money by sitting in a bank should be taxed at 15% or 10% or even 0% while the sweat of the brow of the working class should be taxed at potentially 25%, 28%, 33%, or 35% is just plain odious.

all forms of income should be taxed equally, and if there is any differentiation to be made, labor should have the CHEAPEST rate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Watch it there. You could be accused of being a socialist, or worse,
a Marxist.





Tansy Gold, your friendly neighborhood Marxist socialist
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 11:36 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC