Harold Ford Jr. Weighs a Challenge to Gillibrand.

elleng

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:37 PM
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Harold Ford Jr. Weighs a Challenge to Gillibrand.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/nyregion/06ford.html?hp

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Captain Hilts

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:39 PM
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1. WTF???

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Rhiannon12866

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:42 PM
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3. That was my first thought!

She's my former congresswoman (NY-20); he's from Tennessee! :shrug:

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Sebastian Doyle

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:47 PM
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9. Well, yeah but...

The previous occupant of that seat was from Arkansas. Or Illinois. Or Pennsylvania. Depending on which week you asked her.

Of course she was also from the DLC. So it's clear if they want to steal a seat, they don't care about actually representing the constituents, by electing one of them.

The DLC thought they had it made with a gun loving former tobacco lobbyist taking Hillary's place. The thought that Gillibrand might actually try to be a Democrat apparently never occurred to them. Now they want her GONE.

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Rhiannon12866

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Wed Jan-06-10 12:06 AM
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16. That's true. Bill Clinton came to this backwater to campaign for her in 2006,

When she managed to unseat Republican John Sweeney, who had held the seat (NY-20) for years.

She is strong on the second amendment, one of the reasons she's popular among the rural folks here. But she's also in favor of gay marriage, works well with Schumer. And she's local. I can't see her losing to anybody in the primaries... Obama won big here, but her numbers were even bigger.

I worked on the Scott Murphy special election (to fill her seat in the House) and we courted what were called "Gillibrand Republicans..."

Downstate likes her because she's a Democrat and upstate likes her because she's "one of us..."

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IndianaGreen

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Wed Jan-06-10 12:47 AM
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19. Gillibrand supports marriage equality for LGBTs. Ford is a homophobe!

I almost expect Ford to go to Uganda to watch gays being executed.

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Sebastian Doyle

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Wed Jan-06-10 12:55 AM
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20. Gillibrand has actually surprised me to some extent.

I expected her to be far more conservative. Apparently so did the DLC. To me it's a good thing that she isn't what they wanted. So they want to move on to the next Wall Street fellating carpet bagger.

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Rhiannon12866

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Wed Jan-06-10 12:59 AM
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21. Ford lost in Tennessee, even with the name recognition.

And both NY senators support gay marriage.

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Rhiannon12866

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:42 PM
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4. Oops! Double post...

Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 11:44 PM by Rhiannon12866

I guess my hand shook at this bizarre news. :crazy:

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AspenRose

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:41 PM
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2. No way!

Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 11:43 PM by AspenRose

Shit.

"In New York, Mr. Ford took a job as vice chairman of Merrill Lynch, where he cultivated close ties to many of the Wall Street executives who are now encouraging him to run."

Well that explains everything.

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Bolo Boffin

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:46 PM
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6. Oh, my God.

I hadn't heard the Lieberman-wanna-be was vice chairman at Merrill Lynch now.

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rwheeler31

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:44 PM
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5. Oh no he is more consecrative than she is? This is crazy.

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Arkana

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:47 PM
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7. He'll lose.

Gillibrand is much more liberal and a much better Senator than Ford could ever be.

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Rhiannon12866

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:51 PM
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10. She was my congresswoman, first won in 2006.

And she was reelected by a landslide in 2008, though this is a red district (NY-20). She's very popular, even among Republicans. :shrug:

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Rhiannon12866

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Wed Jan-06-10 12:43 AM
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17. And he lost in his home state...

:crazy:

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rockymountaindem

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:47 PM
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8. Is there any *good* news today?

Ugh.

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elleng

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:56 PM
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11. Wish I could say, "Yes."

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rockymountaindem

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Wed Jan-06-10 12:02 AM
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15. Well, Dodd's retiring. Now we can hold that seat

Too bad he screwed himself with that preferential treatment on his mortgage. I liked him well enough otherwise.

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FBaggins

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:56 PM
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12. More bad news?

That seat if probably #9-#10 on the list of most-vulnerable democratic seats this year. A primary fight could make it more competitive.

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Pirate Smile

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:58 PM
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13. Gag.

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Stephanie

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Tue Jan-05-10 11:59 PM
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14. Fuck him

We've had enough carpetbaggers in NY to last us a long, long time. Hllary was a special case and even that didn't work out the way we'd hoped. You are dreaming, Harold, if you think anyone outside of Wall Street will support you.

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IndianaGreen

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Wed Jan-06-10 12:45 AM
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18. FRAK this homophobic DLC puke!

Kirsten Gillibrand is head and shoulders over dipshit Ford.

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aquart

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Wed Jan-06-10 04:16 AM
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23. Sighing wistfully for the dream of democratic process.

Sorry. But if she doesn't need my vote in a primary, she doesn't need my vote in the general. Being appointed is just fine and dandy to get a job for life, it seems.

I was about to say I won't pull a lever for her, but remembered they've taken away my levers, too.

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burning rain

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Wed Jan-06-10 01:42 AM
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22. He took an anti-choice position in Tennessee.

I would hope that alone would provide Gillibrand enough ammunition to defeat him in New York. He really is a shitty conservative.

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