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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:04 PM
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Environmental Advocates Are Cooling on Obama

Environmental Advocates Are Cooling on Obama

By JOHN M. BRODER

There has been no more reliable cheerleader for President Obama’s energy and climate change policies than Daniel J. Weiss of the left-leaning Center for American Progress.
Daniel J. Weiss of the Center for American Progress is disappointed by President Obama's enthusiasm for nuclear power. But Mr. Obama’s recent enthusiasm for nuclear power, including his budget proposal to triple federal loan guarantees for new nuclear reactors to $54 billion, was too much for Mr. Weiss.

The president’s embrace of nuclear power was disappointing, and the wrong way to go about winning Republican votes, he said, adding that Mr. Obama should not be endorsing such a costly and potentially catastrophic energy alternative “as bait just to get talks started with pro-nuke senators.”

The early optimism of environmental advocates that the policies of former President George W. Bush would be quickly swept away and replaced by a bright green future under Mr. Obama is for many environmentalists giving way to resignation, and in some cases, anger.

Mr. Obama moved quickly in his first months in office, producing a landmark deal on automobile emissions, an Environmental Protection Agency finding that greenhouse gases endanger public health and welfare, a virtual moratorium on oil drilling on public lands and House passage of a cap-and-trade bill.

Since then, in part because of the intense focus on the health care debate last year, action on environmental issues has slowed. The Senate has not yet begun debate on a comprehensive global warming bill, the Interior Department is writing new rules to open some public lands and waters to oil drilling and the E.P.A. is moving cautiously to apply the endangerment finding.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/18/science/earth/18enviros.html?em

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:33 PM
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1. This one certainly is
:grr:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:51 PM
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2. Hmm who else is left?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:15 AM
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3. The failure on the part of the Interior Dept
to protect wolves in Montana, Wyoming and Idaho haven't made me very happy.
My donations to organizations like Defenders of Wildlife have gone way up
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:21 AM
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4. how about if they build a Three Mile Island in your back yard? ..front page of AOL is slamming
Obama's plan to fund Nuke Plants!

and quoting this article ..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/16/barack-obama-nuclear-power

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In addition to cost, there have been significant concerns about the proposed designs for new reactors around the country. The Georgia plant selected for the first award is no stranger to these problems. The Westinghouse AP1000 reactor design, proposed for the Georgia site and six other sites around the country was sent back to the drawing board after federal regulators last October discovered major safety concerns in the design proposal, with regulators noting that it would not sufficiently protect the reactor from earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and airplane crashes. The DOE loans are conditional at this point, awaiting approval from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Other proposed reactors in this promised nuclear revival would use a design from French nuclear power company Areva that nuclear regulators in France, Finland, and the United Kingdom have said has "a significant and fundamental nuclear safety problem" with its instrumentation and control system.

Westinghouse is expected to submit a new design proposal this month, but without that new proposal it's difficult to even put an accurate price tag on the project. The last estimate for the two Georgia reactors provided by Southern Company was $14bn. The head of Georgia Power Co, a subsidiary of Southern, has noted that the actual cost of the reactors will likely vary widely from original projections, but the company shouldn't be required to disclose changes to projected costs regularly. The conditional loan guarantee from the Department of Energy is for $8.3bn. It's worth noting that the two reactors already on the Georgia site, completed in the 1980s, had huge price overruns; though initially estimated at $1bn, the final price was almost $9bn.

The government backing of the Georgia project is a major financial gamble, but the White House seems to see it as worth the risk politically. Last week Obama told reporters that his embrace of nuclear power is part of an effort to adopt some Republican ideas on energy, adding that he remains an "eternal optimist" about bipartisanship. The case the administration has made is that they will give Republicans more nuclear power, offshore oil and gas drilling, and incentives for coal, if they will accept a cap on carbon emissions and investments in renewable energy. But so far his entreaties have been met with a resounding "No" from the right, which maintains that he is "anti-nuclear". The $54bn in tax-payer dollars they've put on the line would indicate otherwise.
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Crabitha Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 04:30 AM
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5. Right, the UK has more nuclear power plants than anybody else
and they like their power plants just fine. They don't use coal as we do. They care about the environment the way we don't. So why are you quoting the Guardian when it's the UK that loves nuclear power?

Who is it you're trying to frighten here? What we really ought to be afraid of is that many of our power plants are being run on coal. In England, you can't burn wood in a fireplace, much less coal.

The UK is smarter about the environment than we are. And they have more nuclear power plants than any other country except Germany. They aren't complaining, why are you? Still reeling from the 70s?

See the types of power plants other countries are using before you decide Obama is wrong to pursue nuclear energy (Rush Limbaugh and the right wing media have been very effective at terrifying the US without people taking the time to research the reality):

http://www.industcards.com/ppworld.htm
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:21 AM
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6. I don't object to nuclear energy.
I object to "clean coal". Which he's also come out in favor of.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:02 AM
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7. welcome to DU..as you will find many times here on DU and many dem web sites the Guardian is one of
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 09:42 AM by flyarm
the most reliable news sources since the year..ohhhh 2000..since we in the USA stopped having truthful news sources around the year 2000..and the Guardian covers USA news better than any news source I have found in at least 10 years now.

Understand they are the very news source that exposed the lies of Colin Powell when he sat in front of the UN and Lied us into a war..and plagerized a college guys dissertation paper as his so called evidence of WMD in Iraq...And too many other news stories ignored by the American media..too many for me to post here.

And if you read the article..it is not discussing Britians Nuke program but that of what Obama is doing..this was news on the USA..

And i agree CoAl is worse..and you should also be concerned that hardly any USA media has discussed that Obama was meeting in rpivate secret meetings with Coal industry CEO's..in fact CREW had to go to court to try to get the logs of the White House released..you know ..a President and White House that promised transparentcy!! Had to be sued for records of who in the Coal industry was meeting secretly in "our" White House.

But I only knew about this suit through the Guardian..never heard it reported on MSNBC although they reported it online.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/NEWS/PDFs/white_house_crew_complaint.pdf

see #6 IN THIS FILING..

6. CREW is harmed by DHS’s failure to process CREW’s FOIA request on an expedited
basis, because that failure hampers CREW’s ability to satisfy the compelling public need for full,
accurate and current information about the influence that executives of the 10 largest coal
production companies within the United States have had, or attempted to have, on the president
and his administration in formulating the nation’s energy policy. Absent this critical
information, CREW cannot advance its mission of educating the public to ensure that the public
continues to have a vital voice in government.



....................................

I LIVE NEAR TWO NUKE POWER PLANTS THAT CAN EFFECT MY AND MY FAMILY'S HEALTH Oyster Creek and Three Mile Island....Last year in April there was a leak at one of those plants..Oyster Creek Nuke Power Plant..a tritium-tainted water leak ..not so funny but the first place I read anything about it was in ..you guessed it..The Guardian..not in NJ newspapaers ..not on NY or Philly news ..I read about it in a small blurb in The Guardian. Then I called the NJ newspapers and demanded answers ..as well as many in My NJ dem party that I passed the info onto.



I was the first to report it to our Police Chief...( sad to say he was not infomred of the leak!)..who previously had taken me to a first reponders meeting where I got Potassium Iodide anti-radiation tablets ..(as did all first responders)..because we are downwind to Oyster Creek..sad that I had to read about this leak first from a British news source, and not from a NJ news source!
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Daveparts still Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:29 AM
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8. Do you work
for the Nuclear industry? Germany is debating shutting their plants down.
The UK for years dumped nuclear waste directly into the ocean and is building 7,000 windturbines to be online by 2020.

France has had a great deal of problems with their nuclear program with shut downs and contaminations. Western Europe for the most part is turning away from nuclear power.

Just tell me where we are going to store the waste.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:32 PM
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9. Forgive me if I missed the point of your post
But what does your response have to do with my disappointment about the Interior Department and the wolves?
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