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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 02:51 PM
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What will BP owe America?
Edited on Sun May-02-10 02:52 PM by Scuba
From the New Orleans Time Picayune "Water sustains the region's economy like blood in the body. Commercial and sport fishing businesses support dock services, tackle shops and gas stations. Restaurants are Louisiana's largest private-sector employer, with 140,000 workers and a direct annual economic impact of $5 billion. Wendy Waren, vice president of the Louisiana Restaurant Association, says nearly two-thirds of them serve some type of seafood.

Then there are some of the busiest shipping ports in the world, moving oil from offshore rigs up the Mississippi River and Midwestern grain out to sea to feed the rest of the world.

All are vital to world commerce and have a potential impact on consumer pocketbooks.

The Port of Gulfport in Mississippi is the nation's second-largest importer of green fruit, with Central American bananas from Chiquita and Dole accounting for 74 percent of its imported cargo in 2007.

The Port of New Orleans handled 73 millions tons of cargo in 2008, including coffee from South America and steel from Japan, Russia, Brazil and Mexico."



With appropriate recognition of previous disasters, this may turn out to be the worst environmental catastrophe in history.

Cleanup costs aside, the harm to coastal business will be catastropic - and expensive. Wonder how much sympathy BP execs will get in US courts, assuming we can ever get them there.

Will the damage exceed the value of BP, Halliburton and the rest of the oil industry combined? If so, should the government take over the oil business? Sieze their assets?

Could Washington really do any worse than BP, Halliburton and the rest have done?

The economics of this are mind-boggling.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 02:53 PM
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1. hopefully they are not insured by AIG
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 02:54 PM
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2. I think they are self-insured. n/t
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FBI_Un_Sub Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 03:03 PM
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3. A lot
As in "A King's Ransom" --- maybe WE TAXPAYERS will end up owning BP:shrug:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 03:33 PM
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5. And who will make them pay?
Seriously, it occurs to me that I want my government to seize and hold their assets until every penny of loss is compensated.

I don't believe we are allowed to seize key executives or their families. But surely we can take something...buildings? Wells? Leases? Computers?
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FBI_Un_Sub Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 03:58 PM
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6. Liens
On their real property, movable property, and oil leases.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 03:32 PM
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4. They haven't printed the money for it yet.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 04:18 PM
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7. The bastards will weasel out of it somehow - they'll end up with a net profit
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:24 AM
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13. awfully cynical for a Packer fan
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:36 AM
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14. I'm a member of Packer Cynics Anonymous!
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:39 AM
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15. Hey, I made it through the 70's and 80's... lot's to be optimistic about in Lambeau now
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:13 AM
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16. That's for damn sure!! GO PACK!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 11:00 PM
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8. we need firing squads. we also need to nationalize energy resources.
its insanity to allow corporate ownership of ANYTHING that important. Shoot them. That would be justice.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:25 AM
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9. The way things are going, wei'll bail them out.
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Eugenian Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:49 AM
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10. Please clarify.
"What will BP owe America?"

You mean before the Roberts Court reduces the judgment, or after?
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:55 AM
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11. The world you mean? I know I say this as having a global impact.
More than any collection of them could ever pay. Tell me the legal turf for crimes against a planet are established and that this event crosses that judicial line.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 05:14 AM
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12. We sure got a lot of cash out of Exxon after the Valdez incident
The total clean up of the sound has finished, right?
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:41 AM
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17. I'm sure "America" will figure out a way to give billions of taxpayers' dollars to BP.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 09:41 AM by salguine
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:59 AM
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18. apparently already has
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