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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:47 AM
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Obama's natural choice of Kagan

It's anything but surprising that President Obama has chosen Elena Kagan to replace John Paul Stevens on the Supreme Court. Nothing is a better fit for this White House than a blank slate, institution-loyal, seemingly principle-free careerist who spent the last 15 months as the Obama administration's lawyer vigorously defending every one of his assertions of extremely broad executive authority. The Obama administration is filled to the brim with exactly such individuals -- as is reflected by its actions and policies -- and this is just one more to add to the pile. The fact that she'll be replacing someone like John Paul Stevens and likely sitting on the Supreme Court for the next three decades or so makes it much more consequential than most, but it is not a departure from the standard Obama approach.

The New York Times this morning reports that "Mr. Obama effectively framed the choice so that he could seemingly take the middle road by picking Ms. Kagan, who correctly or not was viewed as ideologically between Judge Wood on the left and Judge Garland in the center." That's consummate Barack Obama. The Right appoints people like John Roberts and Sam Alito, with long and clear records of what they believe because they're eager to publicly defend their judicial philosophy and have the Court reflect their values. Beltway Democrats do the opposite: the last thing they want is to defend what progressives have always claimed is their worldview, either because they fear the debate or because they don't really believe those things, so the path that enables them to avoid confrontation of ideas is always the most attractive, even if it risks moving the Court to the Right.

Why would the American public possibly embrace a set of beliefs when even its leading advocates are unwilling to publicly defend them and instead seek to avoid that debate at every turn? Hence: Obama chooses an individual with very few stated beliefs who makes the Right quite comfortable (even as they go through the motions of opposing her). As Kevin Drum writes:


ight now Obama has the biggest Democratic majority in the Senate he's ever going to have. So why not use it to ensure a solidly progressive nominee like Diane Wood instead of an ideological cipher like Kagan? . . . . When Obama compromises on something like healthcare reform, that's one thing. Politics sometimes forces tough choices on a president. But why compromise on presidential nominees? Why Ben Bernanke? Why Elena Kagan? He doesn't have to do this. Unfortunately, the most likely answer is: he does it because he wants to.


It's even less surprising that Obama would not want to choose someone like Diane Wood. If you were Barack Obama, would you want someone on the Supreme Court who has bravely insisted on the need for Constitutional limits on executive authority, resolutely condemned the use of Terrorism fear-mongering for greater government power, explicitly argued against military commissions and indefinite detention, repeatedly applied the progressive approach to interpreting the Constitution on a wide array of issues, insisted upon the need for robust transparency and checks and balances, and demonstrated a willingness to defy institutional orthodoxies even when doing so is unpopular? Of course you wouldn't. Why would you want someone on the Court who has expressed serious Constitutional and legal doubts about your core policies? Do you think that an administration that just yesterday announced it wants legislation to dilute Miranda rights in the name of Scary Terrorists -- and has seized the power to assassinate American citizens with no due process -- wants someone like Diane Wood on the Supreme Court?

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http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/05/10/kagan/index.html
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:51 AM
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1. "the path that enables them to avoid confrontation of ideas is always the most attractive"
even if it risks moving the Court to the Right.

K&R
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:51 AM
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2. Greenwald is right again!
Kagan is simply more of the same BS, three card monte being played by the Obama Admin.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:53 AM
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4. Greenwald was wrong about Citizens United and he is clearly wrong again
although Greenwald does score high on unprincipled personal attacks on good people.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:03 AM
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6. No, Greenwald is a rational, very smart legal scholar...
who routinely offers thoughtful, intelligent commentary on issues of the day. The only thing that eclipses the immaturity and ignorance of your simplistic, factually unsupported attacks is the nakedness and frequency with which you deliver them. I am quite sure that most thinking DU'ers have your number and have for a while now. Cheers!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:09 AM
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7. Sorry his support for corporations over people shows he is clueless to what the Constitution
means
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:38 AM
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10. You are a one trick pony
It is like you have some form of Tourettes Syndrome that compels you to regularly blurt out nonsense as though it has great meaning or relevance. Your arguments are non-existent and your facts are almost always made up or so grotesquely contorted that it indelibly marks you as a student of the Rush Limbaugh school of debate. In short, you fool very few people.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:52 AM
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3. The man that supported the Citizens United ruling has the nerve to call someone else lacking in
principle?!??! :puke:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 08:56 AM
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5. It's Called the Long Hard Screw
and I'm not standing for it.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:09 AM
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8. Agreed it's time to call Greenwald on the carpet for his reprehensible attacks on a very
good woman and Democrat.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:14 AM
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9. We are sitting here with Primary ballots
Our sitting Senator may or may not get our votes at this point. We will be letting him know this.
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 09:50 AM
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11. Enough of the "Greenwald stuff", this pick is sending a message.
If you disregard an argument because of it's source, you are committing a logical error. Instead of considering the source, consider the argument. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he is wrong.

The message is Obama is sending us is that his political ideas are centered in what used to be the center of the Republican party, but alas in now considered liberal.

Obama is clearly to the right of most of us true liberals in his political thought. I won't go through the laundry list of actions that many of us here look upon with unease, but if Kagan turns out to move the court rightward even just a bit, it will be a tough 30 years... And that is Obama's choice.

That is only 30 more years to cement the status quo or worse. 30 more years...

Scuba
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