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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 03:30 PM
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Endless War: It's a Bipartisan Budget Buster
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37879.html


A $58.8 billion wartime spending bill advanced steadily in the Senate Thursday with Democrats giving President Barack Obama broad discretion — and funding — to pursue his expanded military commitment to Afghanistan and its neighbor Pakistan.


A liberal-backed amendment, requiring the president to more fully spell out his long-term expectations for a U.S. troop withdrawal, was easily defeated, 80-18. Minutes later, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) won a 69-29 roll call to limit debate and set the stage for passage this week.


Included in the package are billions in emergency funds...

Since taking office last year, Obama has twice increased U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan but also committed to begin making reductions by July 2011. Obama announced this approach in December to put the Afghan government on notice that it must do more to take over its own security. But in doing so he also promised Defense Secretary Robert Gates that the pace and design of any withdrawal will depend on real conditions on the ground at the time.

This permits more latitude than restless liberal critics of the war can easily accept. To push the White House further, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) has argued that Obama must at least give Congress some idea of “his vision” for withdrawal by the end of this year. “You could take one troop out. That starts it,” Feingold said of July 2011 target. “That’s not a vision of when we complete it.”.....

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) said that Feingold was demanding, in fact, a “timetable” for completion of the withdrawal — six months before Obama wants to begin. Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) bluntly suggested it was “naïve.” Levin, who authored his own share of withdrawal timetable amendments during the Iraq War, said that Feingold’s language would “reinforce” what he described as an “already a deep-seated fear in Afghanistan that the United states will abandon the region.”....

No Republican backed Feingold, and Levin — allied with Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) — commanded a solid majority of Democrats. But within the party leadership, the divisions were striking. Reid stood with his chairmen in opposition, but virtually all of his lieutenants including, Majority Whip Richard Durbin of Illinois and Sen. Charles Schumer of New York sided with Feingold.




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37879.html#ixzz0pA60ExuD
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 03:37 PM
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1. Who exactly are we "at war" with? Not al Qaeda. We're taking sides in two civil wars ...
Edited on Thu May-27-10 03:37 PM by ShortnFiery
within two THIRD WORLD countries who don't even have a functioning military. We're killing rag tag natives who only know of a tribal existence within Afghanistan. It's the vile truth that we morphed our enemy from al Qaeda to the Taliban.

Most claim that the Taliban MERELY permitted al Qaeda in their tribal areas, but what if they gave them food and support? HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO KILL OFF THE TALIBAN FOR LETTING al Qaeda set up camp in their decentralized country?

Iraq? The moment most of the combat troops are out, the civil war will spark up between the Sunni and Shia. We have to leave, but IRAQ will have their civil war - either next year or five years down the road when we're broke.

We must leave both countries and scale back the BEASTIE we know as the Military Industrial Complex.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:03 PM
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2. Exactly.
Edited on Thu May-27-10 04:03 PM by ixion
There is no 'war'. There is only Death, Destruction and the MIC.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:29 PM
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3. Death, Destruction and the MIC
Kinda catchy. They should put it on the dollar bill.
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:21 PM
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4. Or a Black Sabbath tune..... n/t
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