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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 08:31 AM
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A belated apology to Jimmy Carter
It is at least 30 years late, but the nation needs to pull a Tony Hayward and offer an abject apology to Jimmy Carter.

He was right about many, many things, but today -- as we continue to absorb the staggering costs and risks associated with deepwater oil drilling gone wild and worse than bad -- we're going to re-visit why he was right about energy.

Throw a rock at any major speech Jimmy Carter gave to the American people in his four years as president of the United States (1977-1981) and you will hit one that featured both broad and focused strategies on how to begin the transition of American energy consumption to include meaningful conservation and alternative sources such as sun and wind. He walked the walk, too: He even had solar panels installed on the White House roof. (R.I.P. 1979-1986).

When it came to this issue, President Carter's quest was to reshape habits and laws to deliver sane and safe energy practices and policies that would shore up costs, independence, environmental threats and national security. He wasn't driven only by the emergencies belonging to his time at the nation's helm, even though the gas station lines and soaring oil prices of the 1970s lent urgency to his work. His concerns were also and importantly about tomorrow.

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100620/COLUMNISTS10/6200333/1016/OPINION/Pam+Platt+|+A+belated+apology+to+Jimmy+Carter
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 08:52 AM
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1. Hear, hear! Proud to bump to the greatest page. Should America wish to take a sobering look at what
devastation has occurred in just 30 years after rejecting every thing JC said and stood for and embracing the gipper's trickle-down economics featuring wildly irresponsible fiscal policies, grossly unfair tax policies and all that's followed, including deregulation and a laisse-faire approach to governance, concomitant with pre-emptive wars of choice featuring torture and an assortment of war crimes if one accepts international law and the Geneva Conventions. Welcome America, to the second decade of the 21st century when all the RW seeds of destruction have borne fruit and are nearing full fruition. :P
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 02:39 PM
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6. 1
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 08:54 AM
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50. It's so good seeing the support for President Carter. n.t
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 10:41 AM
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2. Never forget that one of Reagan's first acts as Pres was tearing the solar panels off the WH.
Symbolically rejecting green power and conservation in favor of drill, baby, drill.

The CONs have been wrong for a long, long time now . . .
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 09:26 PM
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27. They were wrong, but made a lot of money in the meantime.
It was all about the loot. Fuck the little guy.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 10:56 AM
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3. Word.
A lot of other guys had it right back then too, and all were roundly savaged for it.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:34 AM
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32. Yes they were.
I remember talking hairdos mocking Carter. There was nothing but ridicule when he said there would have to be sacrifices made to achieve independence. How dare he say such a thing?! Americans don't sacrifice for anything. I remember hearing all that crap w/ a sinking heart.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 11:52 AM
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4. I still hear idiots tell me what a great president Reagan was. I just stare at them blankly and say
absolutely nothing. Idiocy, in my opinion, is incurable.
President Carter lacked a certain political astuteness that cost him (and the country) dearly. But the guy knew what he was talking about and, yeah, if only we, as a nation, had gotten it and adopted his recommendations, what a different world it would be!
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Yavapai Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 04:34 PM
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16. When I bought my first color printer,
I printed up a bunch of shipping labels with Reagan's face on them.
Those with a few pre-cut plastic protectors, my trusty forceps and a pencil, off I went
to place Ronnie's picture on every urinal I could find, at the Steel Mill I worked at and
restaurants everywhere I traveled in So. Cal.

It seemed nobody ever removed them and it was a real joy to piss on Reagan's face! Only got
caught a couple times, but luckily, both times by smiling democrats...
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 06:18 PM
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20. Oh, good one and good for you!
After Reagan's Reign, one of my staff members (a die-hard Republican as it turned out) got me a button that said "I Survived the Reagan Administration." Hate to admit it, but I did not have the courage to wear it in public. It had come to the point, by the time Ronnie was in his last throes, that I honestly was afraid to diss him, uncertain as to what his supporters would do to me. Wish I'd had the urinal targets of his face to spread around. Woulda been great for my mental health, that's for sure!

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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:11 AM
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34. thats awesome!
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 07:40 AM
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41. Ronnie Regan,
What a joke! He was elected with oil money and did what he was told to do.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 02:38 PM
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5. thank you for this link!
:toast:
ALL MY FRIENDS!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 02:40 PM
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7. A great man and an even better president.
He inherited a load of shit also.
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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:12 AM
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35. a great man for sure
and in a different US, probably a great President.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 02:52 PM
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8. "Small people," will you listen now?
doubt it..
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 03:30 PM
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11. I second your doubts....n/t
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 02:54 PM
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9. I thought that Reagan dumped the solar panels his first week in office
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 03:30 PM
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10. Yep, it may not have been the first week
but he did do that.

Bad image, don't ya know!
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lutherj Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 04:13 PM
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12. It was in the wake of the 70s energy crisis and Carter's realism that we got reaganomics,
the culture of denial, and the ideology of greed. Global warming denial and the tea party movement are just the latest incarnation of this. People seem to go into shut-down mode whenever something comes up that might threaten their lifestyle.
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 04:18 PM
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13. K&R For President Carter.....
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 04:18 PM
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14. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, BridgeTheGap.:thumbsup:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 04:22 PM
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15. Great President. K&R .... n/t
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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 04:45 PM
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17. K&R
Jimmy Carter a man who was always smart, honest, brave and visionary.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 05:54 PM
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19. visionary, and in my opinion, what a true follower of Christ should be like, he is caring about
everyone! And that story about the solar panels on the White House sums up his smart move to look ahead - leave it to dumbass actor Bonzo to come in and tear them out - man if that doesn't scream arrogant corporate/big oil thuggery, nothing does.

Disgusting so many fell for the "IMAGE" of RayGun...
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 05:04 PM
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18. i'd support carter if i didn't fear the supremos might come after me
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 06:34 PM
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21. Happy to give this a K&R.
:kick:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 06:38 PM
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22. K&R
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maddiemom Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:34 PM
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23. Jimmy Carter
Jimmy Carter is certainly the most under-appreciated president in my lifetime...just as Ronald Reagan is the most OVER-appreciated (in fact, disagreement over Reagan largely led to a marital breakup for me, a wake up call about the priorities of my Reagan-supporting ex), Carter was the sort of honest and well-meaning president that Americans claim they want, but immediately start kicking to death as a "wimp". If a Kucinich or Dean were actually ever elected, I'm sure they'd be treated the same as Carter.


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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 10:03 PM
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29. Indeed. Very well said.
Welcome to DU! :toast:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 08:48 PM
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46. welcome to du
peace and low stress..
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 07:38 PM
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24. K & R nt
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debannbull Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 08:03 PM
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25. I knew I could marry this darling man I was dating
when I asked him whom he thought was THE greatest of our living presidents (this was in 1995)

and he said "Living? Well, Jimmy Carter of course."


and we lived happily ever after....
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 09:22 PM
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26. Rarely find a need to comment these days...
But a huge K&R for this post.

What a missed opportunity the Carter years were.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 09:35 PM
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28. Agreed
However America need to apologize to him for a lot more.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:16 AM
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30. Carter is definitely underrated
Imagine getting tax credits for setting up your own mini windmill farm on your property, and being able to sell excess energy to the grid! It was like that for a while during the Carter administration. And then the Great Prevaricator came along and trashed Carter's sensible energy policies, among other things.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:20 AM
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31. K&R.
We thew him out for Ronald Reagan. And everything changed...for the worst.
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heidler1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:41 AM
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33. Obama is getting the same treatment that Carter got.
The greedyest will stop at nothing to destroy anyone who interferes with the GOP's desire to turn this country into a rich only welfare state.
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 02:55 AM
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36. It's a sad thing to say, but until Carter dies his wisdon won't be fully appreciated by the public
Edited on Thu Jun-24-10 02:56 AM by SleeplessinSoCal
When the media starts telling the whole story of his presidency and his warnings.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 05:19 AM
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37. Jimmy Carter is a good and decent man, just like the
current president, and he got pillared by the right, just as they do all Democratic presidents. The right wingers always go out of their way to discredit and delegitimize Democrats when they hold power. To them, it defies the laws of nature when a Democrat is in charge.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 05:53 AM
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38. the $58 billion deficit....
Carter's last budget before the election ran a $58 billion deficit -i can still remember that, because the PIGMEDIA went absolutely nuts! ' 58 billion'they schreiked, on every tv and newspaper radio, for week or so before the election! Carter was destroying the US economy etc! If I had 'nexus-plexus' (the neswspaper archive agency) i would go back and put together the 'stampede Carter caused' story, but hell, who cares? (and a phony stampede, needless to say)....
Within a couple years, regan was running yearly 200 billion deficits, running up military spending, and that was mentioned only in financial pages, ahem...nudge wink.
(when Carter left, the US natdebt was $1 trillion; when regan left 8 years later, the debt was $2.6 trillion. When oldbush left, it was 6.5 trillion. Today, it's above $10 trillion (if anyone believes lying pigs!) ...iow, you bin had, america!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 06:47 AM
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39. K&R - Carter is a man of wisdom and integrity, one of few politicians I admire. nt
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h9socialist Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 07:34 AM
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40. Too bad we don't have a time machine . . .
. . . and could show this editorial to the nation around November 1, 1980.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 07:47 AM
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42. Surprised at the source of this piece but glad they wrote it. n/t
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 08:19 AM
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43. Right on, BridgeTheGap !
I have such an appreciation for Jimmy Carter now. I feel he was the last, great Democratic President.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 08:37 AM
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44. No, most American Idiots would rather idolize St Ronnie
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:00 PM
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45. I wish this could have stayed on the home page for more than a day.
I'd leave it pinned there if it were up to me.

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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 01:36 PM
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47. Me too! n.t
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 08:54 PM
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48. at the time, alternative energy was a non starter
due simply to the limits of that period's technology. The cost per btu of solar energy in the late '70s was astronomical and is still about 4x coal/nat gas today. One has to be realistic and recognize if we immediately did a widespread adoption of alt energy today the rise in price everyone pays for energy would further crush the economy and would hamper the electoral prospects of anyone who advocated the move and would damage every other agenda wish the party pushing it would hope to accomplish. Push to advance the technology, yes, but before you widespread adopt, wait for the bend in the cost curve and proceed slowly so that market forces spur the change and growth isn't hindered.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 09:28 AM
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49. okay...I guess you'll have to put on your tin foil hat for this one. A friend of mine told me this
story at some point in the mid-80s. And, no, I'm not refuting your statement on where alternatives were under Carter. But he was trying to open an important door to them.
The friend who told me the following story is not one prone to lying or exaggeration and I don't remember the context in which she related this to me:
She had an engineer friend who worked for a corporation during the day. He had his own machine shop at home and he "tinkered" there quite often. It seems he had been working on a carburation/fuel injection system for gas engine vehicles. He told my friend that his system would allow a full size vehicle with a V-8 engine to get 50mpg on the highway. One night, 4 men arrived at his shop un-announced, while he was working. They took his protype, his blueprints, trashed his shop and beat him up, telling him that if he ever worked on this system again they would come back and kill him.
My friend said that as far as she knew, he never worked on it again.
And, yes, I've heard the stories of the safes at the auto companies that held such inventions. But I really didn't know what to make of my friends story. Then I watched films such as "Flash of Genius" about Robert Kearns, inventor of the intermittent windshield wipers and went "hmmmm."
Then watched the documentary "Who Killed The Electric Car?" My friends story is now seeming far more plausible.
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