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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:40 PM
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Cuban former castaway Elian on military track
Source: reuters

"A decade after being used as a toy by the enemies of the revolution, we see him wearing an olive-green uniform as a student of the Camilo Cienfuegos military school, where he is preparing to be a future officer of the Revolutionary Armed Forces," The Communist youth newspaper, Jeventud Rebelde, reported.
...
"The boy of yesterday (today 16) is now an ordinary Cuban," the page long article in Sunday's only newspaper said, but added he had recently attended the Union of Young Communist Congress where he "shared motivations, ideas and invited us to traverse the paths of the future."
...
He had survived a shipwreck that killed his mother and other Cubans who had left the communist island for the United States, but quickly became caught up in the political rip-tide of Havana-Miami politics.

In the United States, Gonzalez became the center of an international custody battle between Cuba's government and anti-Castro exiles in Miami, his image a fixture on TV screens around the world.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65Q1O520100627



i did not remember his story, i had missed it probably.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:44 PM
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1. you missed Elian Gonzalez???
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 12:45 PM by realisticphish
How old are you? Not being an ass here, its just that I was in high school at the time and it was 24/7 Elian for about a month at least

edit: wow, I'm an idiot; you're not in the US. My bad
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:46 PM
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2. infact i'm trying to dig into my memory, it's very strange...
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 12:47 PM by demoleft
...because here in italy we've been quite attentive to what has happened to cuba and US through the years, especially in my leftist family.
but really - i cannot get to remember it.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:55 PM
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5. Ah - you're in Europe that might explain it
your press may pay more attention to real issues rather than this story which was an over blown custody fight. In other countries there probably wasn't a debate about whether or not Elian should be returned to his father in Cuba. Here it became an opportunity to reopen the Cold War.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:59 PM
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7. maybe yes, the cut given to the news was different. i'll see in some archive. n/t
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:13 PM
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12. Very true.
I can't wait for the day that the Cuban embargo is lifted. I will immediately book a vacation there!
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:51 PM
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3. the Elian Gonzalez affair
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:52 PM
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4. You don't remember this image from 1999?
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:58 PM
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6. i saw that some minutes ago, when i googled the name. but yes, could not remember. n/t
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:59 PM
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8. I remember when I first saw it.
It took my breath away. That little boy (recently orphaned) must have been beyond terrified.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:08 PM
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10. indeed he looks like that. a scar he'll bring with himself forever. terrible. n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:15 PM
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13. He wasn't orphaned
He had a father, step mother, half sibling, grandparents, uncles, aunts and cousins who were in Cuba. What he had here were a bunch of shirttail relatives in Miami who belonged on Jerry Springer.

However, the whole thing was seen as some sort of morality play by the Cubans and rabidly anticommunist Americans. There was also a lunatic religious aspect. The only ones who thought about the little boy at the middle of it were his family and the people in the Clinton administration who were trying to reunite them against the wishes of professional hysterics.

The boy was simply lost in the hooplah, surrounded by new toys and crazy people snapping his picture and trying to touch him and generally acting like total idiots.

That final photo was staged by the family. I do hope you remember that much.

In any case, I hope he's doing as well as press releases tell us he is. Going back to Cuba to be with his father was his best chance.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:19 PM
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16. i agree.
i remember when the 2 grandmother's were allowed into the country to visit him.
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:02 PM
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9. It was a very big deal


because it exposed to the rest of the nation the rottenness of the anti-Castro "gusanos" (maggots in Cuban argot) who are based in Miami.

More photos.

http://www.time.com/time/daily/special/photo/elian/

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Off topix but condolences to Italy re World Cup !!
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:12 PM
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11. thanx for the pic link. and...
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 01:12 PM by demoleft
...hehe - off topic in response: italy deserved to pack and leave.
;)
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:22 PM
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14. It's probably best you missed it, and read about it instead.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 01:24 PM by ronnie624
It was a revolting spectacle.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:25 PM
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15. I wish I missed it-- it brought out the worst in wingnut fury. But...
every so often the Cuban PR machine gets a notice through that Elian has been doing OK since he's back home with his father.

Even after all this time, Elian is still being used as a propaganda tool.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:47 PM
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17. The kid has been exploited by everyone in sight, and now the Cuban Propaganda Ministry
is having their go at him.

God, that whole thing was so insane.

I remember Gore having to take an "Elian position" in the 2000 election.

From Wiki: " Gore initially supported Republican legislation to give the boy and his father permanent residence status, but later supported the Administration position. He was attacked both for pandering and being inconsistent."
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 04:11 PM
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19. He was surrounded by policians in Florida, and right-wing Congressmen in Washington, D.C.
attempted to bring him to Washington and question him in the Capitol.

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org.nyud.net:8090/elian/elian-ileana.jpg http://www.lewrockwell.com.nyud.net:8090/grigg/Poor_abused_little_Elian.jpg http://www.miamibeach411.com.nyud.net:8090/ee/images/uploads/elian-pubby.jpg
Cuban "exile" Republican Congressfolk, Lincoln Diaz-Balart, and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, with Elian.
Cuban "exile" Congressman Mel Martinez gave Elian a free trip to Disneyworld, and a little Lab
pup just like the one Fidel Castro had given his own son before his wife kidnapped his son and
took him away from Cuba. (Fidel Castro got his son back, and he's a physicist in Cuba, now.)



You may recall New Hampshire Republican Senator
Bob Smith commandeered a U.S. military plane &
flew the Miami "exile" family directly to an Air
Force Base outside Washington the moment the U.S.
government legally retrieved the child from his
drunken great-uncle's house where he was being
illegally held after the court had found in favor
of his own biological father. Smith and party tried
to get onto the base and demanded to see Elian, was
turned away, Senator Smith trudging off with his
stuffed Easter toy he had brought for Elian.


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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:58 PM
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18. "Castaway"?
He was involved in a custody dispute, not marooned on an uncharted island.
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Braulio Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:53 PM
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20. I think it meant "shipwrecked".
I do wonder, if a person is aboard a vessel in distress, which happens to be an inner tube raft, is he/she shipwrecked? The kid does seem to have a pretty good life, for a Cuban. He's a celebrity, and I'm sure he'll get better treatment than British royalty when it comes to going into battle. When I think of it, the Cubans used to fight as mercs in the old Soviet Union imperial wars in Africa, but that happened a long time ago. Nowadays, the Cuban army must spend most of its time running foreign hotels and restaurants. I bet they're getting soft.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:05 PM
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21. You should get closer to the truth by brushing up on your information regarding Cuba's part there.
SECRET CUBAN DOCUMENTS ON HISTORY OF AFRICA INVOLVEMENT

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 67
Edited by Peter Kornbluh

NEW BOOK based on Unprecedented Access to Cuban Records;
True Story of U.S.-Cuba Cold fear Clash in Angola presented in Conflicting Missions

Washington D.C.: The National Security Archive today posted a selection of secret Cuban government documents detailing Cuba's policy and involvement in Africa in the 1960s and 1970s. The records are a sample of dozens of internal reports, memorandum and communications obtained by Piero Gleijeses, a historian at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, for his new book, Conflicting Missions: Havana, Washington, and Africa, 1959-1976 (The University of North Carolina Press).

Peter Kornbluh, director of the Archive’s Cuba Documentation Project, called the publication of the documents “a significant step toward a fuller understanding Cuba’s place in the history of Africa and the Cold War,” and commended the Castro government’s decision to makes its long-secret archives accessible to scholars like Professor Gleijeses. “Cuba has been an important actor on the stage of foreign affairs,” he said. “Cuban documents are a missing link in fostering an understanding of numerous international episodes of the past.”

Conflicting Missions provides the first comprehensive history of the Cuba's role in Africa and settles a longstanding controversy over why and when Fidel Castro decided to intervene in Angola in 1975. The book definitively resolves two central questions regarding Cuba's policy motivations and its relationship to the Soviet Union when Castro astounded and outraged Washington by sending thousands of soldiers into the Angolan civil conflict. Based on Cuban, U.S. and South African documents and interviews, the book concludes that:
  • Castro decided to send troops to Angola on November 4, 1975, in response to the South African invasion of that country, rather than vice versa as the Ford administration persistently claimed;

  • The United States knew about South Africa's covert invasion plans, and collaborated militarily with its troops, contrary to what Secretary of State Henry Kissinger testified before Congress and wrote in his memoirs.

  • Cuba made the decision to send troops without informing the Soviet Union and deployed them, contrary to what has been widely alleged, without any Soviet assistance for the first two months.

Professor Gleijeses is the first scholar to gain access to closed Cuban archives—a process that took more than six years of research trips to Cuba—including those of the Communist Party Central Committee, the armed forces and the foreign ministry. Classified Cuban documents used in the book include: minutes of meetings with Fidel Castro, Che Guevara's handwritten correspondence from Zaire, military directives from Raul Castro, briefing papers from intelligence chieftain, Manuel Piniero, field commander reports, internal Cuban government memoranda, and Cuban-Soviet communications and military accords.
In addition to research in Cuba, the author also worked extensively in the archives of the United States, Belgium, Great Britain, and West and East Germany, teaching himself to read Portuguese and Afrikaans so that he could evaluate primary documents written in those languages.

Gleijeses also interviewed over one hundred fifty protagonists, among them the former CIA station chief in Luanda, Robert Hultslander who spoke on the record for the first time for this book. "History has shown," Hultslander noted, "that Kissinger's policy on Africa itself was shortsighted and flawed." He also commented on the forces of Jonas Savimbi, the rebel chief recently killed in Angola: "I was deeply concerned ... about UNITA's purported ties with South Africa, and the resulting political liability such carried. I was unaware at the time, of course, that the U.S. would eventually beg South Africa to directly intervene to pull its chestnuts out of the fire."

In this first account of Cuba's policy in Africa based on documentary evidence, Gleijeses describes and analyzes Castro's dramatic dispatch of 30,000 Cubans to Angola in 1975-76, and he traces the roots of this policy—from Havana's assistance to the Algerian rebels fighting France in 1961 to the secret war between Havana and Washington in Zaire in 1964-65 and Cuba's decisive contribution to Guinea-Bissau's war of independence from 1966-1974.

"Conflicting Missions is above all the story of a contest, staged in Africa, between Cuba and the United States," according to its author, which started in Zaire in 1964-65 and culminated in a major Cold War confrontation in Angola in 1975-76. Using Cuban and US documents, as well as the semi-official history of South Africa's 1975 covert operation in Angola (available only in Afrikaans), this book is the first to present the internationalized Angolan conflict from three sides—Cuba and the MPLA, the United States and the covert CIA operation codenamed IAFEATURE and South Africa, whose secret incursion prompted Castro's decision to commit Cuban troops.

Conflicting Missions also argues that Secretary Kissinger's account of the US role in Angola, most recently repeated in the third volume of his memoirs, is misleading. Testifying before Congress in 1976, Kissinger stated "We had no foreknowledge of South Africa's intentions, and in no way cooperated militarily." In Years of Renewal Dr. Kissinger also denied that the United States and South Africa had collaborated in the Angolan conflict; Gleijeses' research strongly suggests that they did. The book quotes Kissinger aide Joseph Sisco conceding that the Ford administration "certainly did not discourage" South Africa's intervention, and presents evidence that the CIA helped the South Africans ferry arms to key battlefronts. The book also reproduces portions of a declassified memorandum of conversation between Kissinger and Chinese leader Teng Hsiao-p'ing which shows that Chinese officials raised concerns about South Africa's involvement in Angola in response to Ford and Kissinger's entreaties for Beijing's continuing support. The memcon quotes President Ford as telling the Chinese "we had nothing to do with the South African involvement." Drawing on the Cuban documents, the book challenges Kissinger's account in his memoirs about the arrival of Cubans in Angola. The first Cuban military advisers did not arrive in Angola until late August 1975, and the Cubans did not participate in the fighting until late October, after South Africa had invaded.

In assessing the motivations of Cuba's foreign policy, Cuba's relations with the Soviet Union, and the nature of the Communist threat in Africa, Gleijeses shows that CIA and INR intelligence reports were often sophisticated and insightful, unlike the decisions of the policymakers in Washington.

More:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB67/


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Braulio Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:09 PM
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23. Your news isn't news
I knew that. I also know something left out: Castro was a Soviet Union client, receiving a lot of cheap oil for overpriced sugar. He had to send those troops to fight in Africa to pay back his Soviet masters. The Cubans, who fought for cheap oil and to make sure the Soviets would continue to pay extra for Cuba's sugar, can be considered mercenaries. For a nation 1/25th the size of the US, the number of soldiers they lost is more, proportionally, than the number of soldiers the USA lost in Viet Nam. Thus Angola war is considered Cuba's Vietnam.

Let's also finish the story with a closing remark: Today Angola is run by the same guys Cuba helped. But they are American clients, let's call them neo-liberal capitalists. They are OUR guys.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 08:38 PM
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22. Ha-HAH, *really* YOU (an aware DUer) "don't remember his story"?!1 Anyway,
Who knows how he turns out. It could go ANY way. Like Fidel went *that* way. And this young dudes CRAZY S. Florida relatives put us ALL THROUGH TRAUMA - Oh, WHO KNOWS?!1
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