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Bgno64 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:43 PM
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As bad as us
http://blogs.lancasteronline.com/smartremarks/2010/07/06/as-bad-as-us/">Smart Remarks re: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/07/06/race-to-the-top/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+timeblogs%2Fswampland+%28TIME%3A+Swampland%29&utm_content=Google+Reader">Joe Klein's suggestion that public pensions must be reined in:

Klein argues that since such generous pension “rules” are no longer common throughout the workforce, they shouldn’t be in place for public employees - it’s unfair to private-sector employees.

Actually, it’s unfair to all employees.

Klein is arguing for a society where even more workers are economically insecure, even more workers are at the mercy of “the market” for their retirement. And maybe, ultimately, unable to retire because of it.

It’s true that the private sector doesn’t have it this good - defined benefit plans after just 20 years, that is a thing of the past. But this is a tragedy we all should lament. Government no longer has to compete with high-paying industrial jobs because there are fewer of those jobs - and that’s good for whom, exactly? Technology marches on and it’s cheaper to offshore; the former’s always going to cause “creative destruction” but the latter has been a conscious choice.

I’ll use the term again: Peak prosperity. We’re past it. We’re now in an era where jobs are less secure, where there is significant downward pressure on wages. The advantage has shifted decisively to the employers, rather than the employed.

Except in the public sector. Public sector workers are a holdover from a society that thought all workers had a right to a stable, secure future. But now the rest of us don’t have that and we’re coming for the last among us who do. So we’ll drag them down to our level, insisting all the while this will make government more efficient, and ultimately the nation stronger.

The former, maybe. But the latter just gets weaker and weaker.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:40 AM
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1. The reason we were at that prosperity peak
Edited on Wed Jul-07-10 02:41 AM by notesdev
is that much of that prosperity was stolen from the generations yet to come.

We are the first of the "yet to come" generation. We will have no retirement because the previous generation borrowed it to finance their own comforts and luxuries. Instead of looking forward to retirement, we look forward to a future of paying their bills for them.

Such is the price a society pays for permitting the grievous crime of intergenerational debt - literally stealing from their own children.


If I had my way we would default that odious debt and let those who financed it - who aimed to profit from this crime - eat the losses they so richly deserve.
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 12:07 PM
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2. Just another Norman Rockwell day for Joe Klein
Quotes from Joe Klein's blog entry on 7/4/2010:

Well, it's a lovely day here on Cape Cod, a Norman Rockwell July 4th--which we celebrated last night, in true American fashion.....
Similarly, the most alarming thing I read while swinging in the hammock was a New York Times story--not sure which day, sorry for no link--detailing the difficulties that companies with good jobs to offer were having in finding workers with the necessary skills.



Joe Klein reportedly lives in quaint Pelham, NY in a 5,000+ sq. foot home. How valiant of him to trumpet the call for getting rid of middle class pensions....from his elite vantage point on the Cape.

http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1T4DMUS_enUS242US242&q=318+Cliff+Ave%3B+Pelham,+NY+10803-2223&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=318+Cliff+Ave,+Pelham,+NY+10803&gl=us&ei=P6Y0TMKrHunnnQeDzvD-Aw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 12:15 PM
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4. vomit
fuck him and the rest of the elites in this nation telling people to eat dog food and be happy.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 12:14 PM
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3. I'm surprised he
doesn't want us to adopt an Eskimo tradition of putting its old folks on a floe and saying buh-bye.

Or maybe he should be promoting Assisted Suicide for old folks who are homeless and hungry.

May he never get f*cked again.
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 12:31 PM
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5. Style: Mansion
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:15 PM
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6. I think pundit compensation should be reined in, with a "worthless pundit tax"
It's unfair to all of humanity, that has just as worthwhile opinions, but are not compensated with million dollar salaries. We can even name it the jokeline tax.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 04:00 PM
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7. why does this idiot still get a paycheck?
have we no guillotine manufacturers left?
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