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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 04:41 PM
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House Democrats Punished for Senate's Failures
This is the most dead on analysis of the election I've seen, and is a reminder of why, even though he was re-elected, Harry Reid must be deposed from his leadership position unless the first order of business is ending the filibuster, secret holds and other procedural gimmicks for the Senate to stymie democracy. That the Democrats have allowed the GOP to jam things up there this long is evidence of either profound incompetence, or more likely, corruption.

The author is especially dead on about how the Senate's slow, visibly corrupt process of crafting health care reform hurt Obama and the Democrats more than any specific provision in the bill, which overall is very popular, and would have been more popular still with a public option if doing away with it hadn't been necessary to get the votes of excrement like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson.


But, at its most simplistic, the Democrats lost the House, and Nancy Pelosi the Speaker's gavel, because of the Senate's dysfunction. Many, if not most, I would wager, of the 400+ bills passed by the House had simple majorities in the Senate.

Enter, stage right, the filibuster. The Republicans abused it. Had there been no, or a quite different, filibuster rule, or had the Republicans behaved normally as a loyal opposition, many of those bills would have improved the economy, provided aid or addressed social problems that would have contained the anger stirred and then propelled by FOX and Republican hit groups from spreading as widely through the populace as it did.

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The process of passing the Affordable Health Care Act would not have been as long, tedious, and required as much horse-trading. The Republicans derisively call it "Obamacare", but the negative taint it carries arises much more from the long, drawn-out process than from its specific provisions, most of which are so popular that Republicans pledge to re-pass them after repealing the current Act! (Sure, they will). Moreover, the Republicans lied and continue to lie about healthcare reform, but its approval rating--those that approve + those who believe it should have gone further--is nearly 60%, and most of the good stuff has yet to be implemented.

A public option would have been included in the Act, resulting in lower costs and greater savings to the budget...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/house-democrats-punished_b_778770.html
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 04:46 PM
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1. But yet we have DUers wanting to fire Pelosi instead. nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:05 PM
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2. The HCR bill is very popular?
How can I take this analysis seriously after that assertion? At best it is 50/50.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:15 PM
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3. Most of the individual provisions that it is made up of are popular nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:50 PM
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6. But the big one...the individual mandate is highly unpopular.
The funding mechanism for about 15% of the income, the increased 1099 provisions is disliked by most everyone and is already being considered for removal by all sides.

The Cadillac tax, yet another funding mechanism and the only source of cost containment is hated by the unions.

The dropping of Medicare advantage is probably unlikely to go over well either.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:16 PM
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4. if you added in those who wanted an even stronger bill, which was more what he was getting at?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:26 PM
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5. The numbers I saw said the people who like it plus the people who want it expanded
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 05:26 PM by dkf
We are at 48 or 49 with 48 or 49 who want it repealed. I can't recall which side had the extra percent.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 05:55 PM
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7. I saw it as mostly Max Baucus's fault. He chaired the Finance committee
which controlled the process for HCR.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 06:21 PM
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8. if he was the first car salesman I saw when I walked on a lot, I'd walk right back off
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 10:00 PM
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9. Same here. I don't do business with anyone that reeks of fraud or the appearance of being a shyster.
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