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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:43 PM
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National Lawyers Guild Calls For Prosecution Of President Bush ...

... For Role In Torture

The National Lawyers Guild calls for the prosecution of President George W. Bush with a "command responsibility" theory of liability under the War Crimes Act. Bush can be prosecuted under the War Crimes Act or the Torture Statute, if he knew or should have known about the U.S. military's use of torture and failed to stop or prevent it. A comment in the President's January 2003 State of the Union Address contained an implicit admission by Bush that he had sanctioned the summary execution of many when he said: "All told, more than 3,000 suspected terrorists have been arrested in many countries, and many others have met a different fate." "Let's put it this way," he continued, "they are no longer a problem for the United States and our friends and allies."

The Defense Department and the Justice Department each commissioned documents attempting to justify the use of torture under the President's war-making power, notwithstanding the Constitution's clear mandate that only Congress can make the laws. The Defense Department memo said that as commander-in-chief, the President has a "constitutionally superior position" to Congress. This blatant disregard for the tripartite Separation of Powers doctrine is also contrary to the landmark ruling in the Korean War case, Youngstown Sheet & Tire Co. v. Sawyers, in which the Supreme Court held, "In the framework of our Constitution, the President's power to see that the laws are faithfully executed refutes the idea that he is to be a lawmaker."

The Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment was ratified by the United States and is thus part of the supreme law of the land. Congress implemented U.S. obligations under this treaty by enacting the Torture Statute, which provides 20 years, life in prison, or even the death penalty if death results from torture committed by a U.S. citizen abroad. The USA PATRIOT Act added the crime of conspiracy to commit torture to the Torture Statute. The Convention Against Torture prohibits the intentional infliction of severe physical or mental pain or suffering on a person to (a) obtain a confession, (b) punish him or (c) intimidate or coerce him based on discrimination of any kind. To violate this treaty, the pain or suffering must be inflicted "by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity."

The Istanbul Protocol of 9 August 1999 is the Manual on the Effective Investigation and Documentation of Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. It sets forth international guidelines for the United Nations High Commission for Human Rights. Included in the Protocol's list of torture methods are rape, blunt trauma, forced positioning, asphyxiation, crush injuries, humiliations, death threats, forced engagement in practices violative of religion, and threat of attacks by dogs. The photographs and reports from prisoners in Abu Ghraib include all of these techniques. Moreover, the Defense Department analysis maintained that a torturer could get off it he acted in "good faith," not thinking his actions would result in severe mental harm. If the torturer based his conduct on the advice of these memos, he could according to this argument, have acted in good faith.
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0406/S00217.htm
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 05:54 PM
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1. The NLG was going to endorse impeachment at their October 2001 conference.
But they voted against it because of 9/11.
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sjgman9 Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 06:07 PM
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2. the NLG
These guys are the laywers for the far lefties. They do good work, but I think this will just be ignored
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 06:37 PM
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3. Well, I guess what constitutes "far left" depends on where you sit

I remember rightwing folks in Dallas TX in the early 1970s calling Nixon a communist.

National Lawyers Guild lists their aims as:

"to eliminate racism;
to safeguard and strengthen the rights of workers, women, farmers and minority groups, upon whom the welfare of the entire nation depends;
to maintain and protect our civil rights and liberties in the face of persistent attacks upon them;
to use the law as an instrument for the protection of the people, rather than for their repression."
http://www.nlg.org/

Those sound like mainstream values to me.

Check out their multilingual "Know Your Rights" poster
http://www.nlg.org/resources/kyr/kyr_poster.pdf
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 06:09 PM
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9. Anything to the left of extreme right is far left to true-believers
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:04 PM
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4. so it's now far left to sue government to follow the constitution
I don't think so. I love these guys and I test center-left.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 08:32 PM
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5. Agreed.
National Lawyers Guild are true patriots and longtime committed activists.
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sjgman9 Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 11:23 AM
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6. OK, OK, lemme be more specific
The NLG was the lawyers group out and about at the anti-war protests.

They seem like good people.

My bad
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 12:53 PM
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7. You're probably right that most media won't cover NLG.
:(
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 01:29 PM
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8. Shall we add this group to the anti-Bush list?
Edited on Mon Jun-21-04 01:30 PM by young_at_heart
Has there EVER been a president who has caused so much dissent? Maybe a few of our GOP leaders will take notice..........and care.
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